Do Bid Directory owners Jack up the bids?

Well that is a business decision for the two sites involved. There is nothing unethical in the trade itself.

 

The Pheonix based on what you said you are wrong. You said this risk of permanently losing those goods/money. and since you don't lose any goods or money (you can still add to your bid, it does not get reset to zero) you are wrong.

If you are one of those people that can't stand being wrong then I correct myself, you are not wrong you are just not right. Furthermore if you believe a link in a bidding directory has no value at all unless you are in first place then you are probably alone in that unreasonable assumption.

Actually the value thing is sort of irrelevant because it would be the two persons doing the trading that would have to agree on the amount being traded.

I am not sure there is really anything wrong with it but it is more a case of how it appears.

People have been bartering things of value since the begining of time so I don't really see how this is any different. If someone comes to fix your plumbing and instead of paying the $100 bill in cash you instead trade him $100 worth of advertising on your blog, your directory or your bid directory I don't really see the difference.

 

in general directories, you also won't guarantee to keep your place on 1st page of listing. Its depends on how directory owner sort the listing ie bye alphabet, PR or hits and site owner totally have no control of it. At least on bidding directory, site owner have some control of their listing, if they want their listing to be on 1st page, pay more, if not just pay the minimum price and get a backlink from that directory

I don't see any different general directories and bidding directories except the way how its sort its listing.

 

Is this really true?

They are jacking up the bids?

 

I don't think bidding has anything to do with gambling. if you bid $10 then you exactly get what you bid for! if someone makes a $11 bid, then you will have to give another $2 to retain your place or just leave the challange! that's it!

gamble $10 on poker, you may get $100 or zero! that's uncertainty or gambling! getting out-bid is a contest, where you have your free will to back-out anytime! after all your link stays on the category pages forever, so it is a permanant link anyways!

i personally hate people who artificially increase the bids, or make false bids, give free bids to bidders etc! this way, others who will bid later on will have to pay more to out-bid the false bid, and that's cheating IMHO! i think most bid directory owners are honest people, who love to run there bid directories with honesty, we all apreciate every Legal bid on our directories, getting out bidden and regaining our position is a fun based competition that we all enjoy, cheers!

 

I never touch the originally submitted links. It will be dishonesty and will put the directory owner sooner or later.
And it is up to people to bid to be in the first page, they can simply bid $1 or whatever the lowest price is and get a permanent listing in inner pages.

 

I still disagree that trading is inflating bids. Trading links is the SAME as trading cash.

As JG put it, trading has been around for ever (since Adam and Eve). Trading a link in a bid directory is the same as buying a link and someone buying a link from you. Fair value was transferred. It is up to the two parties involved to determine if it is a fair value trade. The only thing that happens is that you don't make PayPal/eBay richer.

 

So..

What's worse:
A. someone crying about it and calling it gambling
B. someone crying about it, calling it gambling AND supporting it in their 'family oriented' directory?

people are so god damn hypocritical it makes baby jesus cry!

 

ok, let's talk more about this point!
that directory is out bid by $1, right! so if he pays few more $$ he can get a pr7 link! say on a general website how much would a pr7 home page link cost! say for example $50 a month! what happens after one month you don't reniew, it gets lost!! but here, on a bid directory the link and the ammount still stays, and after paying a few $$ you get your position back!!

on a general website, $50 * 12 months will cost you $500+ a year, and so on, and one day you don't pay, you lose your link, but here the link is permanant and your bid of $867 says on the categories, and another few $ will bring you back to the home page!! i think this is pure win-win competition!

 

I'm not kidding, some times you just can't educate people. It IS gambling there's no two ways about it, crikey this ain't a competition to see who knows more, I'm trying to give an educated answer. To support my case here's an abstract from a dictionary....

When you bid, you take a risk of gaining an advantage, even if you bid again, I rest my case.

p.s Gambling is one of the most popular FAMILY pastimes, Bingo, The Grand National, Lottery tickets, sweepstakes, the list goes on, so whoever this anon is having a dig at is doing nothing wrong with having gambling in thier 'Family Orientated Directory'.

 

Phoenix:

By taking things ad nauseum, everything is gambling. If I go to McDonald's and order a Big Mac, it may or may not be made well. It may or may not be cold. The outcome is very much in the air.

 

But if your order is too cold or too hot you can get you money back.

 

You might get your money back or you might not. Total gamble!

 

from this point of view, every business opportunity is a gamble! if i submit a site to a directory or trade links or buy links on quality websites etc, then the site lose it's PR or traffic, or the owner of the site cheats! everything is uncertain in life, you plan of gaining an advantage by spending a lot of money on promotions and end up gaining nothing, is it gambling? then define what you consider as not gambling?

 

Anyways guys I think all we are arguing about now is the meaning of gambling or taking a gamble. My understanding of this thread was whether bid directories are the same type of website as say an online casino or poker playing site. The answer to that is NO. But as I stated, everything in life has risks involved and as per the dictionary definition of 'gamble', To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit. everything we do in life is a gamble to I think we are all discussing to very different things.

 

I agree with jg123

even though I am not a native english speaker but I know gambling have a broad meaning and its not necessary a casino poker gambling or that kind of stuffs.

The word gambling here is more like taking risk and. In business, you have to take a risk but that doesn't mean that you are a gambler. Its call risk taker, thats the reason why there are a risk management analysis on most of companies

 

lol, if they got me a wrong order and wouldn't give me my money back I'd trash the place that's one thing you can bet on. Mind you it would be odds on I'd end up in Jail then, so yep its all one big gamble.