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Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by D4rKNull, Apr 27, 2005.

  1. macdesign

    macdesign Peon

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    #21
    I guess people are free to continue to post blatant unproven across the board accusations. Now if this person did that in person with witnesses, there would of course be severe consequences, but being the anonymous internet - there is no accounting.

    One problem some people see with DMOZ is the backlog of submissions, many of which are spam. Most of this is caused by scumbags who continue to try to get around the guidelines, causing editors to waste many hours sifting them out.
     
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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #22
    May be I am becoming too sensative but I see in your answer the popular DMOZ, spammer, spammer song.

    According to DMOZ editors, spam is the major cause of all problems in the world including corruption and lack of procedure in DMOZ and possibly the war in IRAQ, global warming, ......

    It is such a big problem and some how all the smart "human" editors can not solve this problem. :confused:

    May be I am wrong but I don't see the spam, as such a big problem and here is my solution on how to solve it.

    Make a script that finds the domain name from the submitted link, after all people in DMOZ are the "human" editors who are going to look at the site and not a spider that is going to index every page.
    If it is allowed to submit a domain in differnt category ( I never got an answer about this, DMOZ editors change their mind as they go along) then check if the new submission already exists in that category.

    1-If domain exist--->Yes--->message to user that dupliacte submission is not excepted

    2-If domain exits--->NO----> add to submission database

    If only one submission is allowed independent of category then check the domain against submission database:

    1- If exits--->message to user, submission refused

    2- If it doesn't---> add to submission database

    If people in DMOZ don't know how to write this script, I can do it for them free of charge. :)
     
    gworld, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  3. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #23
    no you're not being too sensitive, it gets very annoying.
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 27, 2005 IP
  4. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #24
    If you're asking questions in the Resourceless Zone, it doesn't much matter whether or not you want a fight... you'll get one of two things there: (1) nothing - stonewalling - no information - now don't ask again for 6 months or we'll ban you; or (2) insults followed by abuse followed by being banned. Hmmm... tough choice... they both sound so good :eek:
     
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  5. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #25
    This is the Resourceless Zone you're talking about now, right? :D
     
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  6. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #26
    I agree with macdesign, the problem is that people submit all kind of crap to DMOZ, and worse of all, they don't even bother to look at the guidelines before they do.

    Take your time, dedicate at least a week studying how other sites have their titles and descriptions, take a look at the DMOZ boards, carefully pick the right category and carefully enter all the necesary details, and voila! That's all you need.

    I have 3 sites listed at Dmoz. 2 of them took about a month to get listed, the other one took about 3 months.

    I have many, many sites that don't meet the quality guidelines, so I just don't submit them. That's the main problem, everyone thinks that all their sites should be included in DMOZ. No, you need to understand that, be realistic and don't waste the editor's time submitting sites that will just not get aproved.
     
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  7. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #27
    Absolutely and I think that DMOZ could do a lot more to help their editors pre filter the garbage out.
     
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  8. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #28
    Fryman, I completely agree with you but realistically speaking: people won't be realistic, everyone thinks his $hit is gold and will put up a fight creaming and fighting.
     
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  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #29
    Currently in "Applied for DMOZ Editor" queue and scheduled for "DMOZ FUD 101":

    If you really believe this, fryman, you just haven't been paying attention.

    It's not DMOZ or its editors that are the problem -- it's the people who submit to DMOZ.

    Wow! That's a novel way of looking at the situation... haven't heard THAT one before... :eek:
     
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  10. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #30
    Well, I did apply to be an editor, and got rejected, lol :D

    People told me to apply again, but I just got too busy. And yes, the problem is with the people who submit to DMOZ, I believe that is what I just said in my previous post.
     
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  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #31
    You don't know what you're talking about -- I believe that is what I just said in my previous post.
     
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  12. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #32
    Sorry, Minstrel, I forgot that you are always right and have absolute knowledge about everything.

    You are right. Sorry again...
     
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  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #33
    The only problem is that if DMOZ decides to filter out the garbage, not that many of DMOZ editor's sites will be in DMOZ.
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #34
    True as well!
     
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    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #35
    I don't know what kind of criteria they use now to asign a category to the editors, but when I submitted a site related to Christmas, after doing a little research I found out that the editor was the webmaster of several porn sites.

    I don't remember if those porn sites were listed at DMOZ, but it did seem a bit strange to see him editing my category.
     
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    #36
    That is a part of the disorganization there as well. Heard a lot about it.
     
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    #37
    I think it makes an interesting combination, what do you think about a naked Santa site? :D
     
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  18. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #38
    Apology accepted.
     
    minstrel, Apr 28, 2005 IP