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Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by dvduval, Jul 4, 2005.

  1. gdtechind

    gdtechind Peon

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    #121
    i think for some ppl getting listed is pretty easy, while most of commercial website owners find it bit difficult to get listed.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #122
    Is this an acknowledgment that AOL/Netscape/DMOZ that are American corporations knowingly breaks the the American law (USC 18 & 2257) by providing link to illegal porn sites ?
     
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    Alucard Peon

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    #123
    No, this is an acknowledgement that editor jimnoble (not the entire corporation) wishes to focus first on internationally illegal sites with some degree of priority. (Note the use of the personal pronoun "I")

    He made no statement about any of the rest of the sites.
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #124
    What is so difficult to stop these illegal sites?:confused:

    You already have the name and URL and for a "meta editor" should be very easy to disable these sites. Can it be that you and "Meta editor" jimnoble have no desire to stop the illegal web sites? Or may be even "Meta editors" are too little of a fish to do anything when it comes to DMOZ corruption?:rolleyes:

    By the way; do you know who is the "volunteer" DMOZ editor or meta editor who gets turned on by "Drinking pi*s" and "tortured girl"? Is there a S&M club for DMOZ editors? If there is, then editors posting in resource-less zone and bad behavior toward other posters makes perfect sense.:)
     
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    jimnoble Well-Known Member

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    #125
    Of course it isn't.
    • I'm not a lawyer.
    • I'm not familiar (and don't plan to be) with that legislation.
    • I speak for myself here, not DMOZ, AOL or any other editor.
    I'm not prepared to discuss such matters here because you know as well as I do that it would be pointless.

    My priority is more pragmatic and is to remove the claimed child porn listings from ODP as soon as possible. I'm sure you'll agree that any hindrance of that would be unjustifiable in most people's eyes.
     
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  6. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #126
    Why aren't you prepared to discuss and why is pointless? You are a "Meta editor " as you like to mention it in your signature and have won all kind of DMOZ editorial prize according to your profile on DMOZ, so why don't you simply remove these listings from the directory? Everybody knows that there is no problem for editors to remove sites that are not even illegal. Why don't you think that it is important to remove illegal sites from DMOZ and not being a lawyer is not an excuse for illegal activities.

    May be you like these sites and in your opinion DMOZ should be the "Authority Directory" for rape, torture and killing of girls sites?

    Don't give us excuses, just admit that you as meta editor have no real power when it comes to corruption in DMOZ and the people behind it are so strong that you will be out in cold in a second if you try to do anything.

    Jimnoble, be a man,no more excuses, confession is good for soul.:)
     
    gworld, Jul 10, 2005 IP
  7. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #127
    I dunno what this 2257 thing is but in my country if you find a child porn site you report it to the cops! existance of a few IBL links is nothing when you have people plying that kind of trade.
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #128
    Minstrel, if you've made it up with the child porn, have the balls to admit it.
    Otherwise ... we're waiting :cool:
     
    Blogmaster, Jul 10, 2005 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #129
    Ignorance is no excuse for not taking action.;) Learn about it, there is enough material out there.
     
    gworld, Jul 10, 2005 IP
  10. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #130
    I have to learn about the proposed laws of YOUR country? And every other DP member's country?
     
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  11. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #131
    Oh, that's why, it's to do with filth. No ta, no need for me to know.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #132
    The text describing a law is not filth. I didn't ask you to watch porn, I told you to read what is defined as legal or illegal. It is always nice to wash your hands of everything, but you are part of organization that promotes this kind of porn and profits from it.

    You can not volunteer just for a part of organization and defend it and then wash your hands from the rest. You are as guilty as rest of editors for making it possible for DMOZ editors to promote and profit from such sites.;)

    Your argument is like Germans who were part of Nazi party but after the war were claiming that only few people were doing the crimes and it got nothing with them.:rolleyes:

    You also posted that you will report a child porn site to cops, so my question is that without 2257, how do you know that a girl in the picture is 16,17 or 18?
    Do DMOZ editors have a magical power in their eyes that they can tell exact age of each girl in the pictures just by looking at it?
     
    gworld, Jul 10, 2005 IP
  13. Alucard

    Alucard Peon

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    #133
    I seem to recall that Google also features search results that are highly adult in nature, and probably contain all of the keywords that have been mentioned in this thread. Do people beat up on the "integrity" of Google for this reason? No.

    When you go to the ODP site (which I know most users do not), there is no ready way to get at the Adult content, unless you know how. No links to it from anywhere in the directory (at least there shouldn't be - if there are, please let me know and I will remove them). The ODP search feature (horrible though it is) does not return results from the Adult section by default.

    The Adult section has its own definitions and guidelines, which differ in some fairly significant ways from that of the rest of the directory.

    I hope that those who are raising this kafuffle are also making the same complaints to Google et al. Otherwise it might look like you were just finding reasons for picking on the ODP.. and I know you're not doing that.
     
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    #134
    The big difference with Google is that Google return unbiased results from a search algorithm. DMOZ is directory and editors are promoting few porn sites for their personal profit. If DMOZ was listing all porn sites and gave each 1 listing, I would have agreed with you but this is not the case.

    Can you tell me what is so special about rape and torture site so that deserves 126 listing while many serious and informative sites can not get 1 listing?


    DMOZ- Authoritative Directory for Rape and Torture Porn Sites.
     
    gworld, Jul 10, 2005 IP
  15. matthew

    matthew Guest

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    #135
    I keep coming back to this thread waiting for those allegeing that DMOZ lists child porn sites to come up with the goods --- as per usual, I see they haven't or can't.

    As for all this talk about legal action against DMOZ --- rather than shoot your mouth off here about it, why not put money where your mouth is and take the action ... I am pretty sure no lawyer will take it on.

    Did you read what you agree to when you submit a site to DMOZ as part of the submision agreement:
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    I guess the facts can always get in the way of a good rant...
     
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    Matthew

    Since it is your first post and you start with defending DMOZ, I can only guess you are one of those DMOZ editors too.
    If you have nothing to say about the matter that is being discussed then please don't give us the editor's BS one more time.
    Do you mean by your second quote that it is Netscape that has chosen the porn sites and it is AOL/Netscape corp. that should be legally responsible for these sites? If you know that to be a fact, can you please provide me with your reference, so it can be forwarded to appropriate authorities.

    DMOZ- Authoritative Directory for Rape and Torture Porn Sites.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #137
    On that basis I have a part time contract with a company that used to have a tobacco firm as a client. Should have resigned when they took them on. My Dad died when I was 14 - and smoking was his downfall. He knew the risks... but 25 years later I'd still like to see them shut down.

    I'm currently subcontracted to EDS - hell, that's a great big company that would make DMOZ look teeny. I sit in my little cubicle 2 days a week but what else goes on? Maybe some of the geeks send porno-jokes to each other in their lunch breaks, or even during work time? And I'm supporting that organisation. My job involves keeping two systems running for one of their clients. That client recently ran an ad campaign that was offensive (meant to be funny but wasn't) and it was even more offensive when it wasn't pulled until 12+ hours after the London bombings. Should I have quit?

    My kids eat Watties baked beans but Watties are owned by the tobacco companies so do we not buy that brand?

    To claim that because one part is rotten we should throw the lot out is misguided. The bad should be excised, certainly, no one disputes that.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #138
    sarahk

    I suppose this is the difference between you and me, I don't compromise on my principals and if I think some thing is rotten, I will go all the way, no matter what is the personal cost to me. I just have too much personal integrity but I understand that not every body is like that.

    DMOZ- Authoritative Directory for Rape and Torture Porn Sites.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Yeah, well I guess I'm just all compromises. The sports facilities I enjoy are supported by grants from filthy lottery boards, our government legalised prostitution, gay marriage and continue our anti-nuclear policy. The tenants in our properties get up to who knows what in their spare time but I still give them a roof over their heads. I drive a car which spews out filthy toxins into the environment. I've helped fuel the population explosion by having children and I hope that one day they will make me a grandma. The principal of my children's school is overweight and must therefore be endorsing gluttony, yet I thnk she's doing a wonderful job. I eat meat, an inefficient food source and therefore contributing directly to world hunger. I really must tidy up my act!
     
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  20. matthew

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    #140
    In this thread its very obvious you have a problem with facts - so please get your facts right on this one: I AM NOT AN EDITOR.... never have been and never want to be.

    I also notice that you have not yet come up with the goods that you have been repeatedly asked to come up with. Where are the child porn sites listed in DMOZ?

    Perhaps it is you that should have nothing more to say unless you can come up with real facts. Your continuos dribble about nothing is tiresome - you have demonstrated a complete inability to discuss anything and attack anyone who fails to repeat after you "DMOZ is corrupt" - thats not a discussion!!

    DMOZ is a private organization. What they do is their private business. They can decide what sites to list and not list. They are not accountable to webmasters, so I don't care about them. I just fail to see why so many waste time and energy on all this DMOZ bashing dribble. Its not achieving anything except serve as an avenue for venting - IT WON'T CHANGE A DAMN THING AT DMOZ!!!
     
    matthew, Jul 11, 2005 IP