DMOZ Supports Child Porn?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by dvduval, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1421
    You didn't answer the important question, are you a pedophile or corrupt editor? ;)
     
    gworld, Feb 21, 2006 IP
  2. shygirl

    shygirl Guest

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    #1422
    Thats a bit strong isn't it ? :confused:
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1423
    I don't think you need to worry about it, You have made it clear in your posting that you don't agree with it and you won't stand for it. :)
     
    gworld, Feb 21, 2006 IP
  4. brizzie

    brizzie Peon

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    #1424
    I believe that is incorrect. As I understand the situation it is a very small minority who do not seem to get it and delayed action.

    The horse and cow probably wouldn't even have noticed given what vets do to them, pigs are not reknown for standing still if someone is upsetting them, and dogs will bonk anything, animate or inanimate given half the chance. More importantly as evidence there are no forums I am aware of for animal victims of sex abuse. Or DMOZ would have listed them to provide a balance.

    I wish you wouldn't keep using me as evidence of anything please. I left because I had run out of challenges and disagreed with Admin priorities which I felt were focused on trivia not real issues threatening DMOZ. Plus a lack of time to commit to the job. That's it. When it comes to these issues I would have been in the thick of the internal discussion though it would have been a resigning matter if the final decision goes the wrong way - as it probably is for many serving editors.

    Some of us think it is productive, including some editors and former editors, despite high noise levels. In many ways you get a far more open discussion here than could ever be achieved internally, especially when threads are moved to locations where many editors will not tread.
     
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  5. EveryQuery

    EveryQuery Well-Known Member

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    #1425
    Brizzie, your knowledge of the sexual habits of certain domestic animals is scaring me. LOL. :D
     
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  6. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1426
    What is happening? Did the Admins found a good excuse why they should list pedophile and bestiality web sites or are they still looking to find a reason to justify child molestation?

    It seems they are trying their usual trick, let's be quite and hope everybody forgets about it. :rolleyes:

    In the mean time DMOZ editors, especially the ones who have children can be proud of themselves that they volunteer their time for such an organization that provides users with high quality content like this:

    "Realize that pedophiles LOVE children. They do NOT advocate the use of force or coercion (beyond encouragement) on kids to have sex with them! Sex is not harmful for children or adults, provided it is done honestly, lovingly, and with good intentions and consent. It is not something kids should be "protected" from, like a fast moving car. It is the guilt trip of society that causes harm to perfectly good relationships. This must be changed-not the behavior of pedophiles or the children they love and care for. "

    From lege(.)cz/archive/pedo1(.)htm listed in DMOZ
     
    gworld, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #1427
    I suspect that is the hope among the Adult editors and the misguided defenders of free speech. That's what politicians do with news stories that are not flattering to their parties - attack the source and hope that works, or just hope the fickle public forgets.
     
    minstrel, Feb 23, 2006 IP
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    vic_msn Well-Known Member

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    #1428
    may be the admin of the site is a editor in ODP
     
    vic_msn, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  9. vulcano

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    #1429
    What exactly is the point? Just troll on out:rolleyes:
     
    vulcano, Feb 23, 2006 IP
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    #1430
    I've already stated that these sites, for the most part, are not supported by Adult editors (from what I have seen).

    I normally try to ignore trolling, but as there is actually a good question hidden in there, I will reply. ;)

    What is happening? We are waiting to hear from the admins. As has been stated, they are discussing more than "what do we do with these few sites?" I imagine that that discussion wouldn't take long at all. Instead, they have removed the few sites from the directory (a Good Thing) and are trying to create a policy that will cover all sites of this nature in the future so that we don't have to go through this again (another Good Thing).

    Now, what that policy will be and what effect it will have on these sites is still in the air. My advice would be to save your sarcasm and accusations until after they make a policy. It might save you from looking like a fool. On the other hand, if they come back with some half assed, avoid the issues policy, well...we can take turns with the sarcasm and complaining. ;) :D
     
    sidjf, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  11. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1431
    Waiting for Godot

    The play is in two acts, and in both of them the tramps Vladimir and Estragon wait in vain by a roadside for Godot, with whom they (perhaps) have an appointment. The audience never learns who Godot is or the nature of the business they expect to transact with him. In each act the cruel Pozzo and his slave Lucky turn up, followed by a boy who gives Vladimir and Estragon the message that Godot will not come today "but surely tomorrow".

    How long time do you think is needed to decide that child molestation is not good and DMOZ should not help pedophiles? ;)
     
    gworld, Feb 23, 2006 IP
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    #1432
    Read my previous response again, this time all the way through. I answered that exact question very clearly. Did you miss it the first time through or are you avoiding it because it invalidates your accuasations?

     
    sidjf, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  13. gworld

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    #1433
    followed by a boy who gives Vladimir and Estragon the message that Godot will not come today "but surely tomorrow".
     
    gworld, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  14. sidjf

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    #1434
    My bad. I thought you actually wanted to discuss something (which I enjoy doing with you when you actually have something to discuss). I'll come back later when you are done with...whatever it is you are doing...

    On a related note, why is it so hard for you to ever accept an answer? You asked a question, I gave a detailed answer, and you can't just say, "Thanks for the answer". You have to pick it apart and complain about it and be sarcastic. We're on the same side on this issue friend. Picking at each other doesn't help anything at all.
     
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  15. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1435
    Because you didn't give any answer. Any serious organization would have removed those listings by now, would give out an announcement that they are sorry for the mistake and would give a date for when they will announce the new policies which stop this from happening ever again.

    Instead DMOZ response is : one day, someday we will say something. :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  16. sidjf

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    #1436
    The two most controversial categories (and the sites therein) have been removed. A date can't be given for the conclusion of the discussion as they did not set a deadline - they will discuss it until the discussion is done apparently.

    Actually, I did give an answer. You just ignored it, as I'm sure you will continue to do.
     
    sidjf, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  17. gworld

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    #1437
    :rolleyes: is this before hell freezes or after? ;)


    If you think "one day, someday we will say something." is an answer then I understand why you thought I ignored it. ;)
     
    gworld, Feb 23, 2006 IP
  18. vulcano

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    #1438
    Now, honestly, gworld, you have to admit, that it is not that easy, having a discussion with you. Looks like you are always trying to have the final word. The "one day, some day...", was posted by you, right?;)
     
    vulcano, Feb 24, 2006 IP
  19. gworld

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    #1439
    What is not easy? :confused:

    It is a very simple question for anyone, should we help the pedophiles to molest children? let me think for a second about this difficult question. I got it, NO WE SHOULD NOT.

    Do you see how easy it is? ;)
     
    gworld, Feb 24, 2006 IP
  20. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #1440
    Let me put it another way: Look at any site in those categories or any adult category. Ask yourself this: Does this site promote or endorse behavior likely to result in harm to another human being? Every time the answer is yes, delete that site. If in doubt, delete it anyway to err on the side of protecting a potential victim.

    It's not rocket science. Really, it isn't.
     
    minstrel, Feb 24, 2006 IP