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DMOZ Supports Child Porn?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by dvduval, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. Deobfuscator

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    #781
    Who am I? What have I done? Where is your evidence? What have you got to say that is constructive here?
    SEMrush
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    #782
    You tell us who you are dude :confused:
     
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    #783
    Wow, your grasp of the law is really pretty poor. If you think that's how the legal system works, then I feel pity for you and anyone who listens to your quasi-legalistic claptrap.
     
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    #784
    You're the clever one (at least you think so). Figure it out.
     
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    #785
    Former editor. Had I not left in December I would be preparing to leave right now if things were not put right. I have faith that there are good people in there fighting for it to be put right. Whether they will win or not I can't say but for the sake of the Directory and its future I don't think they can afford to lose.
    They do, and I am sure the same can be said for a multitude of existing editors.
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    #786
    So you feel that "the law" is going to protect you when "the law" is looking to bust the search engines for porn right now with them trying to get porn search records out of all the SE's :confused: :D

    Something constructive.......:confused:

    DMOZ fires you now Defraudulistic......
     
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    Deobfuscator Just thought I would bold a few of the more important facts pertaining to the courts ruling..now even you can understand those I believe.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #788
    This is from my previous post in case you have missed it:

    Here is my post quoting the ruling from US supreme court that such sites are illegal- Link to argument and case.

    Here in this post I show that illegality is not a matter of pictures or text- Link to argument

    This is the post which quotes the law that such material are not protect by free speech - Link to argument and case law

    Since you are such a genius in legal matters, can you show us what is the base of your legal opinion that pedophilia is legal or pedophiles enjoy the support of first amendment to discuss and organize themselves to commit an illegal act of molesting children? :rolleyes:
     
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    A serious suggestion for those editors seeking to retain child rapist networking sites who think their thoughts represent the DMOZ way. I am sure you have stated your case internally as well as on this forum.

    Hold a secret ballot. And publicise it on dashboards. Let editors decide whether to keep or reject. And when the result is in editors can then decide whether they want to remain with a body that censors such material, or if it goes the other way, whether to remain with a body that permits such material to be listed. It is easy to do. I am sure the supporters of removal would back such an idea - if you are confident your views hold water then you should also back such an idea.

    Then hold another secret ballot to see if editors as a whole want to retain Adult galleries as they are, or reform the whole thing to bring it into line with the rest of the directory. Again, if your arguments hold water you should be confident of a successful outcome.

    That would solve the entire Adult problem once and for all and isn't that in everyone's interests?
     
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    #790
    It is not just the child listings, AOL is going to shut down all of this shit, just watch and see!
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #791
    No, it is not. ;) :D
     
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    #792
    That would be a fair and democratic way of doing it, but if sites are illegal then they should not be listed. Period.

    (Edited unlawful -> illegal)
     
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    #793
    Whoop whoop. Will they be flying in their own black helicopters, or ones borrowed from the FBI? Or perhaps NBC? Or the MIB?
     
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    Brizzie that is a great idea but there are a couple of problems. I am guessing that the powers to be right now have an interest in this type of listing, so they are going to be against your suggestion and even if the powers that be are not against this suggestion you will have those who hold either a financial or psychological desire will be unwilling to consider your really good idea.

    The second issue is one of a legal nature. This should not have to be voted on, IMO the way I understand the statues and court rulings on this type of listing it is illegal in the State of California which ODP is registered in and by federal statues as well.
     
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    #795
    Figures a dummy like you would not be able to see the hand writing on the wall Defraudulation :D

    Has the porn biz been good to you over the years :confused:
     
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    I've been reading this thread but started scan-reading past gworld, obfuscator and beyond that point anthonycea; just so I can complete the catching-up, quick show of hands... who in this thread has suggested DMOZ ought to hold onto the paedophilia affirmative action category?

    oh by the way minstrel a while back you asked who thought DMOZ should list porn. As it happens, I do.

    Though I personally would rather it didn't list BDSM, death+gore, and all that other stuff. However, that stuff is not illegal (neither is the porn i am happy for it to list). So one thing I can't decide is, should my views hold sway and censorship applied according to my definition of taste?

    I personally genuinely can't decide where DMOZ ought to draw the line - according to my views, someone more conservative (and where do we stop? many no doubt would like to see pro-abortion sites delisted), someone more liberal, etc?

    Some things are most definitely across the line, no matter where you decide to draw it - the 'paedophilia affirmative action' category for example.

    Perhaps an interesting exercise would be for everyone here to write down, in a sentence or three, how they think DMOZ ought to explain where the line is in the editor guidelines?
     
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    No Dmoz editor wants that because then several of them ( You KNow Who You Are ) are going to be forced to VOLUNTEER most of their time on Myspace helping our young kids create profiles or do I mean become Pedophile victims. :rolleyes:
     
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    Whoop whoop. I'd love to run the local store that sells tinfoil - you must have a tinfoil EVERYTHING. Unfortunately, the Great ODP-AOL-Time Warner Pornography Cabal can still read your thoughts.
     
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    Bradley, which of these sites would you keep in the directory if you were the CEO of AOL :confused:

    http://dmoz.org/Adult/Image_Galleries/Voyeur/Outdoor_Sex/Free/

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:confused: :confused:
     
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    LVH, that sort of assumption is the reason threads like these go nowhere. You (and others, please don't feel I'm singling you out here, that's not my intention) have painted a picture of DMOZ in your head that is so terrible, you find is conceivable that those that share authority at the top of the food chain are paedophiles.

    And then some moron like me responds to it, instead of ignoring it, usually saying (with varying degrees of tact, usually very low levels of it) that that's a stupid thing to say and you must be a stupid person to have said it. This is apparently RZ-typical behaviour (I've hardly ever posted there so I can't claim to know different) and causes DMOZ critics to retreat into a shell the same way DMOZ editors did with the last post, being accused of corruption and even being peo-paedophile (many people here for example have said that by the pro-paedophilia category's existence, I and other editors support paedophilia - in which case, though I voted Lib Dem in the last general election here in the UK, I must also be a supporter of Labour, the Conservative Party and even the BNP!). It's just not constructive to say totally unreasonable, slanderous stuff like that and I'm even tempted to say that it justifies 'tin foil hat' comments!
     
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