Dmoz submission

I don't think you're getting the point. No one asks a "Volunteer" for anything.

You cease being a "volunteer" when you refuse to offer your services for another's benefit.

"Volunteers" do work.

I would intimate that you are not a "volunteer", but rather a "In-Volunteer".

Again, I know how it works over there...

 

Last post on it............

No volunteers do not spend every moment volunteering, they usually offer time periods,like my friend who volunteers at the Citizens Advice Bureau or my friend who volunteers to work in a local hospital.They are not on call, they do not work outside the periods they have offered, unless they wish to do so. I volunteered to do at least one edit every 4 months, I do that and sometimes much, much more!

You seem to think if there is work to be done, volunteers should spend all their time doing it. But you may know how it works, but you aint there, so why is someone who wastes their time trying to slag off those who do spend some of their time volunteering trying to dictate how, when, where one choses to volunteer. I think you should go and spend your time doing something useful and do it for free.

As I said, last post for me on it........

 

This post equals another couple edits...

 

Anonymously is correct. All an editor HAS to do is one edit every 4 months. Mind you, not ADD A SITE, that's MAKE AN EDIT. Anything more then that and it's work!


An editor has spoken, and it's clear that they do all that they can. You know, the multi-year wait time to get a site review, the complete lack of communication, and the fact they only NEED to make an edit once every 4 months is proof enough they are working their tails off for the end user, so I'm done with this subject as well.

After all, it's clear they are sweating like dogs to keep the ODP on top!

 

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My list of edits is more than 6 , like some editors.

DMOZ sets the boundaries for editors, we just volunteer to be part of that, some people don't like following rules, well not at the time, but then regret it.

 

WOW... that like had nothing to do with my post you quoted and replied to. LOL.OK OK... you made 6 edits in the last four months, I'm happy for you. Sorry you had to work soooooooo hard.

 

That's probably another 6 edits that could have been done.... But it's his last post

 

its so tough to get approved by dmoz...

are there any other similar and popular directories

 

A few years ago DMOZ requests used to take around six months to appear but I have now been waiting for over 1.5 years for recent submissions. Is it correct that if you submit again during this period your listing goes to the back of the queue?

 

It gets a new date stamp which overrides the old one, saying that it is recently submitted. If an editor is only re viewing older sites in the suggestions pool then it will not be looked at. But editors use different ways of looking at suggestions.I just glanced down a list yesterday, listed one that had tried to comply with guidelines and moved a non-English site to the correct language area, none in any order. But it was obvious that the suggestions were full of tons of porn sites that would not get listed in the main directory and it would be a long job to weed out good and bad, so did a couple and moved on.

But what do you gain or lose?

Outlined the date stamp above, but also enough re-submissions, because more than one submission for any URL is against guidelines, can treat the site as spam and just blanket ban it.

Also if the site is not listable and has been rejected you just take up an editors time rejecting it again, now that is how to get banned for spam, unless the site has completely changed its nature and content it will not be listed.

Sites are not lost, they sit in the pool, from a few days to a few years, and re-submitting does nothing to move forward a review, and may hinder it. It does not bring a site to an editors attention, quite the opposite, it is against guidelines.......so why do it?

 

To be safe, its BEST to NOT submit your own sites to the ODP, as one of your end users may have already suggested it. In fact, if you have a GREAT site, and a lot of your end users have suggested it, you run the risk of already being banned! Which of course may explain why many sites seemingly have been sitting in the pool for years.

So all in all, yeah, never ever resubmit!

 

This is false information and should be ignored. Measures are in place preventing this from happening, obviously ODP can tell emails and IP's of people suggesting sites.

 

Obviously? Explain. From the outside, NOTHING internal is obvious. So according to the guidelines, submitting the site more then once can be risky...

I suppose its also obvious that they also track proxy sites and throw away emails, for those dubious webmasters trying to make a site look popular.

It's likely also obvious that the wait time is soooo long because all of these things are done by hand, in the back office of some AOL branch by a man named Olga.

Sorry, what is obvious to an editor is FAR from even logical to those that are not.

So to be clear, if 1,000,000,000,006 people submit the same page, that would not be considered spam, assuming none of those people were on the same IP or using the same email. Or is the answer to that obvious?

 

Your arguements are going from silly to absurd....its a shame you dont see that you are embarrasing yourself with such absurd arguements.

 

Again a DMOZ thread!!!

I would like to see no more DMOZ thread and want to ignore it for life. But the problem is it bumped to newer posts.

 

I think there will probably end up being more DMOZ threads in the dmoz category!!! ;-)

 

"Years ago" (relative term)... Ten Years ago? 2 Years ago? When?

Truth is, the process used to be a little less convuluted. You see, everyone approving sites was part of a collective of like minded ego maniacs all approving their own sites. But of course back then, all of those involved were about the only ones out there with web sites.

You have to ask yourself why the bulk of sites listed in ODP look like they were made to be viewed with Mosaic or Lynx. That's because they were.

Of course there never was a time limit for the listing of a site. There was an approval process, which is hampered by the legacy Lynx era group of uber dweebs who believe that exclusivity and making the not so cool kids wait and beg to be part of their click' is so damned cool! (well it sure used to be).

<Insert devils advocate diatribe>
Are all editors like that? No. Is all of DMOZ filled with old defunct, irrelevant shit? No.
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But, the few who remain are at the top of the pecking order and the "wait" is instigated by a combination of aging ego with a hint of "I just don't give a shit".

But, what's more disturbing than this "wait and go away" (buzz off) attitude? It is those that continue to post here and elsewhere begging, asking, whining and bitching about "how long does it take to get listed", "how can it take so long", "when will my site be approved", "who can I contact at DMOZ", and on and on.

Seriously, it's pathetic watching people ask these same slew of questions over and over again. It's equally disturbing to know there are people out there that mistake the "wait" as being singularly exclusive enough to be the save all end all PR boost they will need to promote their site.

Club 94 was not cool, that's why it's not around anymore. Most of the people that went there died there, or elsewhere down the road. DMOZ is no different. In its heyday, the hype made for some good PR (not the page rank kind)... You had some pretty cool bragging rights, and could indulge freely in mental masturbation at its finest as you laughed at other's who were not "In like Flint" so to speak.

DMOZ for all its value, (I mean real value) in terms of it's importance to Google has run its course. The cool kids club has had its day. Can we move on now?

 

I hope so,it will mean that editors can get on with what they want to do...pursue their hobby and not be blitzed and inundated with people wanting to get their site listed for value that may or may not be there in a listing.

DMOZ editors do NOT seek to enhance the value of sites, but seek to collect and categorise data as their hobby and for that to be available for those who want to use such data for searching the internet. One of the best things that happened to DMOZ was for Google to stop using the data as though it was important to be listed and thereby put pressure on editors by site owners who sought such value.

 

Dmoz accept the site. I have already submitted many site in Dmoz and all are approved.. The thing is that you have to choose the correct category..