DMOZ submission process flaws - howto stop your competitors site from entering

Hi guys.

The way dmoz has designed their submission structure is basically that sites which you enter into the submit form are timestamped.

U submitted your site 8 months ago.

An intelligent competitor goes do dmoz and submits YOUR site again every week.

Well guess what.

After submitting your site, ur url is searched for previous submissions, to eliminate duplicates.

Your competitor which is submitting your site everyweek, means it is timestamped from no more then a week ago.

Editors are usually more interested in knocking down ORIGINAL submissions which were submitted months ago rather then new stuff which has just came in.

 

I can tell you are no rocket scientist. What if your competitor had never submitted his site? You would be submitting your competitors site. Also you would need to know what category they had submitted to. He might of misdirected the submission to the wrong category, your submission might be placing it to the right category increasing his chances of getting listed.

 

Now that would be funny...

I've heard of sites getting listed within minutes. What if the editor just happened to be on at the moment of submission (the first time) and WHAM your competitor gets listed.

 

Well with this post, you've pretty much affirmed that my analysis was correct.

Acutally your right about me not being a rocket scientist, I'm a computer guy.

It's people like us which develop applications like dmoz, google, windows and work for companies like verisign, intel and sun microsystems.

 

If I was a rocket scientist I might have a clue how that affirmed your analysis...

How is submitting your competitors site to the correct category proving this method of them never being listed?

 

Hang on buddy, back up the wagon train a bit. You posted instructions on how to sabotage ones competitors site entitled “howto stop your competitors site from entering”. I would think we would all agree that that would be a fairly scummy thing to do. I treated your post with the contempt it deserved. Now you are getting all miffy. I hope that you are not looking for an apology.

 

Well I basically outlined a Major flaw in the dmoz submission process.

How it is exploited remains the choice of the exploiter.

Well people do alot of scummy things in this world, don't they?

Microsoft put netscape out of business, brought them down to their knees after they had invested millions of dollars on Netscape 1.


Scum is all around business practice, don't tell me u don't know this.

As long is it is not illegal, it is valid.

 

That statement is wrong on many levels. Perhaps someone else might like to explain it to you. After that little gem it is time for me to retire from this discussion.

 

I think this sums you up very nicely.

Though I still do not understand how potentially getting a competitor listed is an effective means of having them not listed. It really sounds more like a crap shoot then the real deal. And if you are seriously going to go for it, while you are at it why not buy them thousands of links all over the net to get them banned from Google as well.

 

Can that somebody explain it to Bill Gates, the ceo's of ENRON as well?

O u understand it very well, and u just don't know how to turn the topic around. I think alot of people will understand it very well also after reading my post.

Google is designed very much differently then dmoz. It is constantly maintained and they have analysts and testers identifying loopholes & flaws just like the one I just mentioned here that dmoz has.

Flaws with google are patched up in a timely manner and there is a way webmasters can communicate with Google if they find out that they have been banned.

If the webmaster is not at fault, Google will work with them and unban them.


Google is designed much more differently then dmoz.

Let's see if u can come up with a more intelligent answer next time.

LOL

 

It is funny when one of the scums in DMOZ complains about doing scummy thing.

 

Here is some re-affirmation from your member named shadow575.

You still sure it's a crap shoot?

Think again.

http://www.resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=245184

Post #5

Here's another dmoz BOO BOO right here.

A site just launched may be rejected, but later on when it matures then it's a good candidate to list.

But since it's already been rejected in the past, it's now considered as spam and will never make it in the pool of sites to review.


I don't know, I think editors may just be wasting their time on DMOZ, cause the system is prehistoric.

 

there is a slight flaw or two in this too
First is that the notes we leave on the site would say, try again later when it has matured. Though my experience of this would be a forum with about 10 postings all from the same person.
Secondly, offering a site months apart will not mean it is regarded as spam. Getting tagged as spam really does mean aggressive listing. Second offering just puts it to the bottom of the list.

Someone said earlier that putting a competitor to the bottom of the list would stop them being listed. I always check most recent submissions because older ones have been left for good reasons many times, but if the new one is a re-submit that's different. So no problem either way.

 

Very well.

I went ahead and submitted about 6 sites which I don't like and don't want listed in dmoz.

I used proxies around the world so there is no way on earth you can trace my patterns.

I guess then they should have a good chance of being listed if they come under your nose since u always check for the recent submissions.

 

Yes, that was most certainly outlined in your previous posts.

Though please keep in mind you are still certifiably insane if you think that will really work. For one, many (MANY) categories only have a few submissions (yes, even after years).

And then re-read

You can seriously submit once or submit 1,000 times. In many cases the editor wont even be paying attention....that is if your category even has an editor. A wandering Editall or (nice) Meta that opts in for clearing out that cat as they pass by will pick one end of the list and go go with it. If I had the chance I'd personally start at the newest and work my way back. The newer ones would have a greater chance of being current.

It's STILL a crap shoot to potentially get your competitor listed...but then, *shrug* feel free to submit all my sites once a week.

 

Why wouldn't it?

I mean u probably want sites suggested to relevant categories with well written descriptions.

Submitting crap will definitely work.

U know it, I know it and now alot of others know it as well.

 

Submitting crap week after week IS a sure way to not getting a crap site listed...but then, NOT submitting crap is also a pretty sure fire way to not get crap listed.

Your posts are LAUGHABLE and trust me I am laughing at them...though I am done replying to them.

 

You can laugh all u want, cry, moan or get angry.

I don't care.

The directory has major flaws and I've outlined it.

It's basically prehistoric.

I don't think it's gonna last.

The only reason it has attention right now is because google has it on their webmaster guidelines.

You change that from dmoz to joeant in google's guidelines, then the next week joeant will be in the same position.

 

But Google know which is the best directory.

If DMOZ is crap, no good, has been, over, finished, kaput and ended, past it's sell by date, no longer any good, not the top directory....then why the hell are you lot who are not editors there talking about it? Go away, get a life, leave we editors and AOL to worry about its future.

Trouble is you can't because you know that it is important, you would like to believe it is not when you can't get your site listed there, or you can't get to be an editor there. the truth is that it is important and significant and tell you a secret it will get more so with the planned improvements and changes.

 

Hmm. ok did u just call nebuchadrezzar a scum ?