DMOZ Scandal of the YEAR

Evidence

I have to look it up in my basement and I found some META messages I had before and I remember that SHE ask me to stay away at DP. This is just an evidence of how the High Ranks manipulate your lives.

Not Good from a Meta/Admin.

 

Are you kidding me popotalk??? Not only is the above a lie, but it's clearly written by a DMOZ insider that no scruples making up lies about Annie. Anyone with half a brain will see right through it.

Yep! Another liar, unless that's robjones lying again.

You know why it's a lie? Because there is nothing secret here, it's all in the thread for anyone who has an internet connection to see. Why would anyone "filter information" to metas and other editors? About what? Our VERY PUBLIC going-ons? This applies to DP and Bunny's. It's all public.

He's trying to drive a wedge, claiming that Annie is against us, and still loyal to the ODP. I am ready to believe that she is still loyal to the ODP, and that is commendable, and a testament to her kind and generous heart.

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Dear "Mr. Popo's anonymous red rep fairy"

Us DP trolls are standing up for Annie, as one body and one mind. We might be despicable infidels, but none of us would ever contemplate doubting Annie's rock-solid integrity, compassion, and dedication, EVER. We'll believe one word from Annie before we believe thousands of meta-diatribes. That is the nature of our faith in this outstanding woman, and yes, member of our community. I will add that none of us would view continued contact between Annie and the ODP as a betrayal. That's what she loves, we totally and unconditionally respect that, and we only love her more for the unshakable loyalty she is capable of.

In stark contrast, look at what you and your ilk is doing. It's not pretty, is it now. You've lost your moral compass, and are resorting to complete lies to defame good people. I am so glad that the likes of you are a shrivelled up minority, and I hope that the good guys win.

Yours maybe, but not truly,
ex-editor uroboros

 

Some people have no balls...
They are the same type of people who would smash your car window in the middle of the night because they have a gripe with you and run away...
Nuff said...

 

I know that existing Editors are reading this, along with editalls, metas and the like. If one of you with access could please log into my old cat] and pull out the unreviewed entry that was placed there for a Typo.... it *IS* magick (with a K).

Case in point:
dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Esoteric_and_Occult/Magick/Chats_and_Forums/

Sorry, but I never got that resolved (which I guess was something I should have thought of yesterday)

I started a thread asking about 'guidelines for appeal' and it does seem that there is no process for such an action. It also lists meta to editor warnings as OPTIONAL. For any that think I'm just making this up, check it out yourself:

http://dmoz.org/guidelines/meta/abuse.html#removing]</nofollow>

Any editor let go has no means of appeal!

it does however say: All account removals are subject to staff review and appeal.

But there is no process for such a thing, and no official means for an editor to start the process. Further more, it does seem that the "appeals" process in that quote is a matter for Admin to start. Now how many editors actually know admin?

However, there were a few people that read my message and stood up saying "hey, maybe we DO need a change here". To all of you, a heart felt thanks...as such a change just may save you some day. Please find more internal support for such a cause.

One Meta however said that "warnings are given on a case by case basis" which, with all of the ex-editors out there saying they got NO WORD about them being let go, it makes me wonder if the only cases of official warnings are reserved for such editors in good standing with the inner sanctum that just happen to flub up in the public eye.

"They've been given a warning, no need for alarm"

(if editor would like to see the thread it's in ODP Culture, titled Guidelines for Appeal)

 

You think they didn't have enough time to forge the logs? By know they probably fixed them so instead of 10000+ it looks as if you only added dozen websites and all of them your own.

That would make this whole thing a planed show so that any editor not following party line would expose himself so they could be removed... this scenario would be believable only if I was one of the metas - hey, maybe I'm only pretending to be some guy from country that doesn't exist and both poptalk and helleborines are really evil metas.

Darn our cover has been blown... but now we have long list of people to remove and grandmaster Annie of the sacred meta order will now gives order what to do with these infidels.

 

Good luck with that one, all my former categories are dead since my removal and few are still stuck in my test folder despite pleads to move them so the work isn't wasted...

Why does that surprise you? How can you even appeal when you can't even know why have you been removed in the first place???

Whole process was created to keep metas safe from any accountability (how can divine metas even make a mistake?) and removed editors from having any chances of appealing.

 

Evidence from Meta/Admin Part1

Theres one message after I have been logged out.

 

Here popo, that should explain it. (borrowed from http://www.religio.de/cudef.html, adapted by yours truly)

 

Crowbar should become a standup comic. He's adorable!!! He's invoking papal infaillibility. I love it.

Now that the laughter has subsided, serious business:

I personally received no warning of any kind. I have no trouble believing that Annie didn’t, either. Before accusing me of lying about this... show proof.

Incorrect. Not a thing was done to avoid canning me, there was zero back and forth, zero warning, and “what the editor pretends in front of the internal/external communities” doesn’t wash with me, because I know the truth about my dismissal.

 

I think the forces for change have run out of steam. The rear guarde dug in its trenches, and letting the would-be reformers exhaust themselves.

God forbid the dinosaur should evolve, even the slightest bit, in a direction that can only be positive, and avoid some big, costly screw ups in the future, that lead to, for example, ex-editors with very persistent and persky disgruntlement.

I think it's hopeless. I had some hope, but not anymore. The agents of the status quo are at the top, they have no vision except to hang on to shreds of power for themselves, and no change, however minute, will ever occur.

No happy trails here. The slow-witted reptilian relic can go extinct itself.

 

No one ever said the fall of Rome would be a pleasant one, and as the city burns it's up to the populous to either stand up in unison to put the flames out, run for their lives, or be buried within the ashes..

I, and others ran, I guess this is the cowardly way out...but that's OK. It's also OK that my 27 edits did not amount to much. At least I didn't need to call people names to prove my point. I remained civil, I tried staying courteous, and I gave the opposition a chance.

Certain members of Dmoz *coughROBJONEScough* did little else but call names, skirt the actual issues, and be an all around meanies...and with people like that running around, is it really any wonder that insignificant editors with only a handful of edits under their belts leave? I mean, I'd have quit a REAL job for the same reasons...if a person can not feel pride in their work, or their employer, then that person should likely look for a new job...

(any Directory owners out there in need of an editor? I used to work at DMOZ )

 

I am sure that *coughROBJONEScough* fancies himself one of the bright lights of the Directory. He would in fact be right, if the ability to concoct large lies with ease was a criterion.

With 27 edits, you can congratulate yourself that you didn't waste precious minutes or even hours. If you had done more, you'd be kicking yourself, and be proportionally disgruntled.

I'll always known that the real reason for my dismissal was my disagreement over the deep linking of Rubylane stores (I believed that they should NOT be deeplinked) or my request for mediation against kctipton, who was, after all is said and done, the architect of my dismissal. It's not that one listing they used as an excuse, because even without my having a chance to explain it, I think they could have easily figured out that it was an honest mistake.

Yes, I can see Rome burning IN THE DISTANCE.

 

Wow !! A fantastic man with the cowboy hat, jeans and boots. A truly representative of Texas Best Real Estate (thats the business site) Pioneer of the KKK movement. Scumbag in Real Life. Heartless SOB !!
Ladies and Gentlemen that is your example of a good DMOZ Editor.

 

Kowtow to what? To us? What???

Speaking for myself only, I hope that they adhere to the status quo as rigidly as possible, because that's the fastest path to their self-destruction. They are already catering to my aspirations with commendable zeal, religious fervor and tunnel vision. I applaud their stubborness and resistance to improvements. Die, ODP, die!

Haha.

They greatly fear that even infititesimal changes are dangerous and destructive influences from the infidels on the outside. Fascinating.

 

*Cough* Bad or Good Realtor You Be The Judge ? - Has To Lie in ODP and Accuse People Not Good for Sales in Real Estate *Cough*.

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not dp member so no report on attacking/harrassing.

 

Let's see

Q r y z t u f r e = so the count is: 3 vowels, 6 consonants for Q
R o b j o n e s = so his count is 3 vowels, 5 consonants for the Texan

Q wins by a consonant!

Now lets see - g b o i s s e a u = 5 vowels and 4 consonants - skunky wins the Vowel War!!!

Isn't this the most r i d i c u l o u s post you have ever seen?

 

As much as I dislike robjones' lack of regard for the truth and lack of scruples, lying to unjustly vilify others, I don't think it's fair for anyone to sabotage or hurt in any way his business and livelihood.

You have to feel sorry for the guy, because one day he'll realize what a monumental waste of time the ODP was, and he's going to want to take back that lost time and spend more of it with his family (if they haven't run away), his hobby (probably guns or a virus collection), and his horse (or donkey). He will be forced to come to terms with his mortality, the finite time we spend on earth, and wish he'd spent 10% of it cursing the ODP like us DP trolls, rather than contributed to a vanished collections of 0's and 1's.

Hey skunky... whassup... you're a funny guy today! When I switched from "uroboros" to "helleborine" I gained a vowel! Swweeeeeettttt...

 

You walked and raised money for breast cancer and just understanding a sick comrade is very difficult ?

Damn it ! Wheres my French Fries " Damn I am Missing 2 French Fries ".

 

Looks like from your avatar, they may be up your nose. Try looking there.

 

Thats something I am still looking to sling the contents. Minnie, Minnie Miney, Moe.