DMOZ Scandal of the YEAR

This entire thread (well most of it as you always get the odd nutter) was really enthralling but in reality as much distaste as there is here about what has happened to Annie and others, does anyone seriously think the hierchy at Dmoz give a stuff at what people rant about? Don't get me wrong I'm on the side of minstrel and others but really, do you think they take a blind bit of notice?

 

Yes they do friend. As a matter of fact I have a PM from some editors who will resign. Besides of the fact that the EDITORS or let say SUCKERS have been contacted by HIGH RANK EDITORS not to post in the thread. Take Neb for example that mor - on has a very high blood impulse and holding on. (Dont hold it neb you might get a heart attack) Jim Noble aka martty aka DPLurker has been doing it too. Orlady with her watchful eyes and reads the DP posts evryday and Shadow575 posing as copperdrum ? These people are your regular sumbags of the daily life without humanity.

And The Phoenix we all know about it.

 

Perhaps not. As I said, this should separate those editors with principles and courage from the suckups who will do anything to hold on to what they perceive as power and authority, such as it is.

After the fallout, even the most naive or most dense should have no illusions about the ones remaining.

 

No. They don't give a rat's tutu about what anyone thinks. They won't change.

They view the "outside," from their ever-shrinking fiefdom, as misguided, disgruntled, and with great paranoia. They have a cultish, "let's huddle together against the outside forces that wish to annihilate us" attitude.

Does there need to be a purpose when crying out against an injustice? People are being crushed and hurt - we stand up on their behalf. Perhaps it is to right a wrong, if only in the moral arena? We all know that DMOZ will not change, reconsider, apologize, nor do we care. What they did is amoral, we are outraged, and have no motive to keep silent or to kowtow to anyone at the ODP.

 

Thanks popo.

Just a few quotes here to show the cult mentality. It's truly sickening, but fortunately, such shameless sycophants are actually the MINORITY over there; that extreme of bootlicking deserves to be quoted because I feel that my very large post here should begin on a humourous note:

Next, I am going to concentrate on the positive. For instance, meta-editor revr here shows impressive amounts of courage, spunk, and independent thinking:

Inpendepent thinking is quickly squashed by the Assistant High Priest - this guy has all the subtlety and grace of a cement bull:

I have to disagree with you guys, this pvgool is restoring my much eroded faith in mankind:

Seriously, I am more impressed by the minute. Who would have guessed, haha.

 

I am keeping these comments in a separate post... of special interest to us DP trolls. Read them carefully; very interesting.

Hey sweet stuff, I ain't misquoting nobody! And I am very impressed with anyone who, like you, has the courage to speak out and stand up for their convictions. I'd expect no less from someone who uses a moniker like "freestyler". You inspire respect.

Here's a "beaut" from a real coward he's squarely putting the blame on those nasty evil unclean outsiders, scheming a blame bounce back with our secret blame shields and blame phazers - aluminium hat and conspiracy theorist alert:

Well my dear teonas, you're welcome to visit DP, haha, make sure to follow all Level 4 Biohazard Protection Procedures. Bring your Hazmat suit and a self-contained oxygen supply. We'll set up multiple showers, a vacuum room, an ultraviolet light room just for you. You'll get to see what FREE discussion is really like. Open, public, controversial. Our little DP spy popotalk is forcing you to have a public discussion - it should be no less free for having an extended audience. I, for one, am actually rooting for a lot of editors there, including some metas, so it's not like we are automatically putting them in a bad light.

Maybe some good will come out of it, after all.

Consider this. Had they bothered "warning" me, before canning me, I'd probably still be there editing (so in hindsight it was for my own good, haha) because I am sure I could have explained my one mistake to their satisfaction. And guess what? I would not have become a thorn on their side (here I flatter myself a bit, I know they don't give a rat's tutu what I think).

 

Poor threebuckchuck, he has no knowledge that his wife was replaced by KGB mole, good thing 007 is one of the metas.

Now we know who is next on removal list.

Second on removal list..

Darn that removal list is getting really long... this will turn into bloodbath or worse genocide, we need UN peacekeepers in there! No wait that never turns out right... we better send in French Foreign Legion they had relatively good reputation and aren't afraid of anyone.

 

Agreed, if they haven't removed me I would probably still be editor of my obscure niches minding my own business, wouldn't even become too much active on this forum and wouldn't have a clue what's all the fuss is about - so nice of them they give so much free time to rant.

As the saying goes keep your friends close but you enemies even closer instead they seems to be dedicated into turning as many editors against them as possible.

 

You're so funny Ivan, you always make me laugh. Yes, how magnanimous of DMOZ to grant us the gift of free time to rant!!! Hahahahha. It's the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it. Like a subscription. For eternity it seems, in some of our cases! Hahahahah.

 

Finally with all that has been said there should be no doubt as to the corrupt nature of the ODP. The machine known as DMOZ will refute and dispute everything that is and will be said to the pitiful end... I remember when I use to go to the official dmoz forum and felt illl over what I saw. Annie was let go because she has honesty and integrity... And to think I once actually wanted to be included in that "directory" and believed it to be just. Shame on me...

Power corrupts, its a fact!

 

Pssst. Hey you. Yes you crowbar. Have you ever had that username of yours smash into your head. Or are you one of the Village People in New York.



I have to post this to let you know how they dig and sling Annie and Dave.

See how she still cares for the morons at ODP. Do you think all of you deserves this ? A FEW but not all.

 

Village People are having a concert? Where? Where?

Darn I really hate nice persons who forgive everyone they ruin all the fun to evil revenging bastards like me.

Oh, well I'll go add more pages to my little websites so I'll have even more deeplinks to submit to DMOZ - that should one day get some innocent editor removed for listing it.

 

I am no longer an active editor at DMOZ. While I loved the concept of an OPEN Directory Project, I found it anything but OPEN once I got to step inside. Their animosity may be because all of you webmasters are jerks, but there is animosity, and too much for me to handle. I felt no love there, I hardly felt like.

Now I guess I am "disgruntled" so with that, these are the words I left them with...I'll not quote who I was replying too though, as heh, that would be against my own principles (because it was within the guidelines of being an honest editor that I read it).

I explain more on my Live Journal: http://qryztufre.livejournal.com/211322.html

 

Great post, I would give you green but I'm all out of them...

You shouldn't have done that I bet they would be more then happy to remove you themselves.

IIRC revealing anything from inside violates communication guidelines and is ground for removal, I have learned that lesson well.

P.S.
And as far as I know Minstrel was never editor and I'm saying nothing on if I like him or hate him before he tells me do I get a discount if I ever happened to be in the neighborhood.

 

Lots to answer here -

Sure, we tend to generalize here, but no more than anywhere else. And if you read my posts, you will find that I took the time to point out that the automaton DMOZ cult members were the minority, and that metas and members were in the majority questioning the most shortsighted editor dismissal in all of DMOZ history, and I don't need to know any DMOZ history to feel confident that this is true.

"Several editors [...] defend the honor of the editors" - sure, that's very chivalrous, but defending someone else's honor should not be a matter of blind loyalty, but intelligent discernment. Without critical thinking, stepping in to defend the honor of others has no value. It is even foolish.

For the record, I don't know how big a fish minstrel is, but I do very much like him, he is an intelligent, witty, principled fellow with heart and mind in the right places. I resent the suggestion that people might not "stand him" - there probably isn't a smidgen of truth to that nasty statement. I am, furthermore, proud to be one of the "toadies that agree with him." I am in active, not passive agreement; I come to similar conclusions, independently, thank you very much.

I reiterate that no official warning was ever given to me - no unofficial warning either - everything was perfect as far as I could tell. I did have a mediation pending against a well-known crazy meta who has now resigned, and was reinstated, and resigned, and was reinstated, and is now resigned again. He is the one who instigated my dismissal, and it was a personal vendetta. That was a pretty rotten thing to do, and it was over a SINGLE edit - so it was not exactly an emergency and nothing had gotten out of hand. One out of 11,000. And if anyone calls me a liar regarding the total and absolute lack of anything that could remotely pass for a warning - DEMAND PROOF.

DMOZ will die. Of inoperable brain cancer, if it is not smitten by flesh eating disease or Ebola first.

 

Hehe... so I am not misunderstood in all this. Before ANYONE calls me a toadie blindly agreeing with minstrel, please see this thread: Matt Cutts and the paid links

*smirk*

It should be PAINFULLY obvious that I do not see eye to eye with him on a few things it's also the closest I've come to trolling in years...

One of my biggest pet peeves is over generalizations, especially when I am involved in some way. That's likely what set me off enough to quit... Though, I do not think it was a rash decision on my part, as it's something I've contemplated since a week before I was even approved...as that was when I saw the joys that take place on RZ.

And honestly, if you are not going to quit because you think that maybe Annie did break a rule, then look around at all the other things going on. It really is not unlike a German city in WWII...you never know when the SS will bust in your door and send you away. New faces are not welcome, and outsiders are completely shunned.

Now ask yourself why it's called the OPEN Directory Project?

Log into the Resource Zone and look around, see how it's non-staff members are really treated...keep in mind that it's the only official place where a NON editor can get anything. Then head over here to the DMOZ forum, or to that other place... dmoz-resource-zone(?) and see how friendly they are...actually HELPFUL. It's a COMPLETE shame that the editors there actually have to hide their identities to be HELPFUL to the very people the ODP is for.

It's not a matter of "disgruntled ex-editors" look at the "disgruntled existing editors" that run the place. They are running off the Editors that actually care about the community they are supposedly serving, and if you wish to dispute that, then log into to the two forums and then think again...

 

Very well said, Q.

And Ivan is correct: I have never been an editor at DMOZ. The reason they hate me there is that I have been a vocal and active critic of their inane paranoid policies since 2004 - back at WebproWorld in those days. And because as time goes on, what I have been saying since 2004 is being proven to be increasingly true, in spite of their denials.

 

Good points minstrel but ego is a more powerful drug than morals, or so it seems with many of these. Power is only what we allow them to have, we gave it to them, we can take it away, all it needs is a concerted effort.

 

I would laugh it weren’t so sad.

 

Thanks, helleborine. But Q is correct: Lots of people don't like me much. I'm okay with that.

Yfs1 said it some time ago. Describing me, he said:

or words to that effect. Whether you like me or not depends on whether you like what I think.

But what pisses people off the most is that when I see injustice and hypocrisy or spamming and scamming, or people just spouting nonsense and mythology, I just won't shut the hell up.