There's a list of directories sorted by # of backlinks and DMOZ has over twice as many backlinks as the #2 directory with over 4.5 million backlinks. Source So I stand by my belief that a listing in DMOZ is of some value and perhaps of more value then a seemingly comparable link in another directory of similar pagerank.
Interesting. How much value would you think there would be having a link on this page or any of the subcategories? I'll take a link anywhere else first. That category has been PR0 since late 2004, is not indexed nor recognized and the same applies to Google's version in their copy of the directory. Check for a cached version or do a site search for one of the listed urls.
Well I guess I'm glad you're spending your time getting links elsewhere! But, did you have to burst my DMOZ bubble?
It depends on your submission and the category and the editor or lack thereof. It could be never. Or it could be a month or two.
Have to disagree with you, if you didn't know dmoz isn't just for webmasters to spam its submission form from day to day, you know there are people actually that use it to find useful information.
I look forward to the day where Google can tell the difference between a good link and a bad link. Look at the DMOZ link in this thread and tell me if which side it's on? I'd wager most of the links pointing to DMOZ are one of two things. SEO bloggers jumping on the band wagon saying that a listing is the way to go (without having one themselves) or complaints.
It's a belief that is not supported by evidence. You can find plenty of sites that have been listed in DMOZ for over two years (if they are in the Google version, they have been listed for over 2 years, that's how you know), that are still PR0. Nice mom and pop own domain, etc. Yet, they are listed on DMOZ pages with PR5 or PR6. In such cases, the DMOZ link is the only link they have. Therefore, the existence of such sites allows you to quantify the effect of a single DMOZ link on a PR5-6 page. The effect is not strong enough to bump a site from PR0 to PR1! That's pretty lame. I would expect that a link from such a high PR page takes you to at least PR1. But not if it's on DMOZ. Google has been shuffling results in my categories, and this morning, I noticed that the relevent DMOZ PR6 category only appeared on page 20. That shows you how much Google trusts DMOZ. Google has not updated its version of DMOZ in two years. That should also tell you something about the value of a DMOZ link for Google. As for all the clonal versions of DMOZ, Google has permanently relegated them to SERP hell. These viral links are not counted. Google has done that on purpose to make sure that DMOZ links are as worthless as can be. A trickle of traffic is good. But 0 to 1 visitor per month is what I get from DMOZ, and it's hardly worth starting new threads. DMOZ links ARE worthless.
Any directory with good PR is worth listing but DMOZ makes you wait so long that most people just give up. It is not worth the constant worry that many people seem to have about getting listed. They are not a god worth standing at their alter and not worth the many many threads that keep getting started on here. Submit your site and move on to build your back links. They will list or not list your site as they see fit even if you sing their praises.
This is just an anecdote, and proves nothing. But I have a buddy whose site is in the Google dumps, page 85, I am not kidding. She's been DMOZ listed for a year and a half. Small category, homemade site, well done for keywords, I can't figure out why she ranks so low. If you submit your site, and you are in it for the long haul, it doesn't matter how long it takes for them to list you, especially since the link has no measurable effect on ranking anyway. Either way, who cares? I want to officially change the motto SUBMIT AND FORGET to FORGET TO SUBMIT. Now, if you exchange links with a friendly webmaster in your niche, you'll get traffic and PR! Post your link on forums with interested visitors. Get the word out. Reach out to your potential clientele. Concentrate on content, on-page factors, etc.
I submitted my personal blog way back when and waited over 18 months before I finally got an e-mail saying I'd been let in. I've been in it for a long while now and honestly, haven't seen any traffic from it. It doesn't hurt being listed in DMOZ, but I don't think it's something people should fret over getting into.
*posts* I noticed yesterday that I'm subscribed to link 90% of the threads in this forum so I can't disagree with you. Though, you should diversify like I have... They talk about DMOZ down in Search Engine Optimization and Link Development. I also find a lot of joy reading all the fun posts in General Marketing.
One very prominent webmaster forum removed their DMOZ section about a year ago, merged it under the general Directory heading. Unfortunately it's moderated by a DMOZ'er who is trying to brainwash every poster that dares to post about DMOZ into talking about "improving DMOZ." Naturally, I have nothing to say over there. Post count "+1" yay!!!
Aren't we allowed to mention Webmasterworld? ;o) They did do as you say but it is interesting to note that the vast majority of posts in the directory heading are about DMOZ. From my experience of WW if this happened in any other heading a new category would have been created. To me this suggests that perhaps DMOZ still merits a heading of its own over there.
Worth talking about and being talking about ARE two different things, so I agree. If there is a forum and the majority of posts/threads are about a specific topic within that forum then it does make sense that they would/should have a sub forum to help keep things a little more in order. The Directories forum here would be a nightmare if it had the 800+ threads about the ODP that are listed in here. It would be like the frieebies board here which is in desperate need of a Social Bookmarking subforum. *shrug* Sure you are allowed, but many people find it bad form to talk about competing sites (even if there is no real competition *smirk*)
Yep, I've made few posts recently and they all got butchered/deleted, luckily moderator wasn't fast enough and few persons did read my rants. when I used word digitalpoint in one of my post there it got censored but that would leave directory forum empty
I'm lazy and prefer to waste my time adding worthless unique information to my little 2138 pages multilanguage website.