DMOZ In Probs

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by real_estate, Dec 25, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi,
    Getting listed in DMOZ is generally a big help for new websites. I really hope they start accepting submissions again soon.dmoze is down for three or four months ? when does it work again? do you know? is it a big problem?
    http://www.dmoz.org/unavailable.html
     
    real_estate, Dec 25, 2006 IP
  2. fsmedia

    fsmedia Prominent Member

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    No one here knows the answer to that. We're all waiting, just like you.
     
    fsmedia, Dec 25, 2006 IP
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    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    i know that only editor panel came back but site submission is not allowed . Everybody is waiting like you
     
    trichnosis, Dec 26, 2006 IP
  4. Sword

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    I thought it was only 2 months, which is way to long also. It appears to be big problems - otherwise they wouldn't be down so long and could offer some kind of ETA. The only update that I know of is found here:

    http://www.resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45325
     
    Sword, Dec 26, 2006 IP
  5. brizzie

    brizzie Peon

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    The evidence doesn't support that really, not now anyway - you can achieve just as much without a DMOZ listing. Plus it has always been very unreliable for anyone thinking of using it to market their site - there even seemed to be a clamour earlier in 2006 for people to get their sites delisted because of damage to their marketing.

    Given the amount of spam that had built up prior to the careless loss of various bits and pieces, it would seem infinitely better to me for the site submission feature never to return. When I was an editor the vast bulk of my new listings came from Google searches and link pages in other sites due to the horrendous amount of spam in unreviewed queues. That would seem the most sensible and efficient means of gathering new sites to list in the future, perhaps opening up only non-commercial categories to submissions at some point. The bonus for webmasters is that they can then focus on what they should be doing anyway - marketing their sites properly instead of wailing over their lack of a (useless) DMOZ listing and blaming it for their lack of visitors and the comparative success of their competitors.
     
    brizzie, Dec 26, 2006 IP
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    I think brizzie is on top of it (as usual) with this point.
    I do disagree (respectfully) with the sentiment that the site suggestions be turned off for good though. Site suggestions can be very useful in many categories. I agree some categories, typically the more commercial ones are spam-magnets and very rarely (if ever) are the suggestions useful but in other areas the site suggestions really do provide a good resource for finding listable sites. In some places, I suspect that if site suggestions were disallowed no new sites would ever be added.
     
    copperdrum, Dec 27, 2006 IP
  7. brizzie

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    It is worth experimenting with. Open up submissions only when there seems to be a need to build a new category and for non-commercials. If ringtone and travel affiliate webmasters are upset by that I wouldn't lose any sleep. If, and only if, DMOZ fortunes are reversed and the resources available start to increase rather than fade away, then keep opening up more and more categories. But control the development of categories and don't repeat the crazy free-for-all policy that resulted in spam-clogged queues that would never be cleared.
     
    brizzie, Dec 29, 2006 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Wouldn't that be funny if they close the submissions and the only categories that will show increase in listings be ring tone, travel affiliates, gambling, pharmacy and illegal porn? ;)
     
    gworld, Dec 29, 2006 IP
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    Based on what transpired with this past outage, if you've submitted and are still waiting; Welcome to infinite hahahahaha
     
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  10. brizzie

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    Where is your optimism gworld? There is a chance at a new beginning here - be positive!
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Have you forgot? I know too much about DMOZ and "senior" editors to be optimist. They will with fight as hard as they can against any attempt to stop the corruption. ;)
     
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    Getting listed in DMOZ takes way too long.
     
    limoon, Dec 29, 2006 IP
  13. Ivan Bajlo

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    Simplest solution would be to split DMOZ like Zeal to commercial and non-commercial or in this case spammy and non-spammy categories (who cares if somebody wants to list his travel site in PR0 category - he can have dozen listings since he will get big zero from that – he would get thousand time bigger boost with just one sig link here :D )

    Making all existing editor editalls in non-spammy categories would probably do more for DMOZ then recruiting thousand new editors who would be stuck in there categories for ages and quit after few months. :(

    I can only hope few new categories I worked on survived crash in my test folder and that some god soul will one day find them and move them from test folder to proper locations. :(

    That usually involves shooting, hanging or guillotining anyone associated with previous regime. :D
     
    Ivan Bajlo, Dec 30, 2006 IP