Just as title, If there is no editor for certain category (which is saying Volunteer to edit this category), Who validates or evaluates submission?? Best Regards, Thanks
If he or she has the time for this .. my experience: no editor --> it can take over a year to get listed (or not ofcourse; more likely)
It all depends what cat you are submitting to. Try not to go for a really popular/general one as these cats have 1000's submissions a day and to manually review when 95% are spam just for the PR must be one headache for whoever is responsible for it, imagine trying to clear a backlog that never gets smaller? I can see why people wait years. This is why DMOZ editors are encouraged to go and find the sites themselves and not rely on submissions.
Good luck. I have submitted several good content sites over the past years and they have been in limbo. Emails to the top category editors have been ignored. IMHO, it seems that portions of DMOZ have become a SEO industry playground. Where, if you do get listed they will a) Remove your link without cause. b) Change your anchor text or link to affect search position. c) Try to manipulate search to affect their clients Example: http://www.mysite.com is changed to http://www.mysite.com/index.php?13 Hate to be cynical but I have seen/heard to much crap with DMOZ. Check out this site for more insight.
Here is another take on some of the corruption at DMOZ: http://news.stepforth.com/2005-news/May25-05.html
Great unbiased synopsis of ODP Blue. Seems like you are someone that hasn't been personally frustrated with the directory. You don't have that anguish and desperation that most writers have.
Oops. Blue. I only read your second post. Your first post has the usual complaints that so many people have.
See that's the thing. You can't be critical of DMOZ, period. Any criticism is dismissed and the problem is completely ignored. Makes you wonder why? Are you an editor at DMOZ? I have a half dozen sites in DMOZ and more than that not in DMOZ. All these sites have the same non spammy layout and depth of content. Why did some get in and other's didn't? I can't tell you that. Some that are in DMOZ have advertisements and others that did not get in DMOZ are strictly informational devoid of sponsors, adsense, or affiliates. I have been even tried to sign up as an editor at DMOZ for categories that I have experience in but no websites -- without any response in over 2 years. You have to really question what is happening in DMOZ these days. I am not the only one with these troubles. The problem is that there is nothing I can do to improve the situation. I have been an editor at Zeal for years but can't get a response to my volunteering to be an editor at DMOZ. Yes, I have complaints -- but they fall on deaf ears and apparently now -- I am not allowed to discuss them according to you. I am not here to get into the DMOZ bashing bandwagon, I relayed my experiences and hopefully they will help another webmaster. I am done. More reading on DMOZ experiences: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum17/2029-4-10.htm http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=29307 http://www.virtualpromote.com/forums/index.php/action::thread/thread::1113345277/forum::directories/
As an experiment, go to DMOZ and check a large category. Click the links and see how many 404's or redirects to unrelated websites you get. If you find this, you can report it to abuse at dmoz.org; then followup and see how long it takes for the sites to be removed or changed from the category. It will suprise you when no action is taken by the editors. http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum17/2450.htm
Easy Blue I was agreeing with you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was saying that you don't have to preach to the converted. Many have given up on DMOZ and can't wait until it dies.
No problem! It's just the whole DMOZ issue gets my Irish up! I just feel lucky that I was able to get in some of my sites before the whole process changed.
The Resource Zone did serve an important function: it let DMOZ editors know what sites to keep banning... complain? OK, you're out! ... because ONLY SPAMMERS COMPLAIN.
Exactly what I was trying to say. Your not alone. Most people can't talk about DMOZ without their blood starting to boil.
What absolutely stumps me is that a Search Engine of Google's calibre continues to use the DMOZ directory as it's directory. If sites are not given a fair review in dmoz, how can Google justify using it as their directory???? It's time the boys at Google woke up to this - they are supporting a corrupted directory and giving it importance it doesn't deserve. (All it takes is 1 corrupt editor to make it an unethical system)
I do think should google decide to not factor DMOZ into its calculations then they would see a significant reduction in the submissions totals, but I think there is also confusion over how important dmoz is, getting listed in dmoz counts as a link from an authority site yes, but there are plenty more out there (some digging required), its not the end of the world if you cant get listed, if I couldent get my sites into DMOZ and there was no reason why it shoulden't be in there I would find a less popular cat a few levels down. In my experience with dmoz the time i submitted to a general/popular cat i waited over a year to be told 'no sorry' I only made the mistake once, since then ive submitted to lower/regional cats and have never waited more than a month to get in.
Martaay has a good point. I don't suggest you go hunting for "less popular" categories which don't fit the site, however. Because all that will do is force the editor to move it back to the more popular category where it will sit for just as long as if you had submitted it there in the first place - in other words it will be even slower to review in a potential category (and slower is not what we are looking for, obviously). What I do suggest is that, if the business you are trying to promote has a physical presence (an office, or factory, for example) and if that information is on the site (address, opening hours, etc), then by all means find the category for the locality where the office is located and suggest the URL there. While not a panacea to the various issues raised on this forum, it gives your site a chance to get a quicker review and a potential listing in the ODP. This is perfectly legitimate ODP submission behaviour - submit once to a non-Regional cat and then, if applicable, submit once to a Regional category. From my reading of this forum, the priority for you folks is to get a listing, and not to worry so much about which category it is in. This will help you get that. Of course, if there is nothing on the site which idicates the physical presence of the business, this tip won't work.