DMOZ Giving 250+ Links Per Entry

Information on the Netscape acquisition is below.

http://vivisimo.com/search?v%3Asources=Web&query=AOL+acquires+Netscape&x=42&y=17


Look for AOL since they are competing with the Yahoo directory to upgrade DMOZ, who knows what might happen, but you can bet something will happen since they are investing money in search.

 

AOL/TW/Netscape will have a hard time making any changes to DMOZ without facing severe editor attrition IMO. I'm not sure where the economic impetus lies for them to change anything either.

 

What do they have to lose Bernard? Yahoo is charging money and their directory is a profit center for them.

Why would you say that AOL has no incentive to change it

Bernard, did you miss the part about firing all the editors?

 

In my opinion, they have made it a huge profit center (without having to invest). This list shows the companies with the most DMOZ listings http://www.whois.sc/internet-statistics/dmoz-listings.html

BTW, AOL / Time Warner owns number 1, CNN

 

Is AOL/TW/Netscape going to hire a huge bureaucracy to screen, qualify and oversee 10,000+ new employees to replace the active editors who are currently working for free? I don't see it.

Also, if DMOZ moved to a paid model, there may be serious legal issues involved in incorporating the current directory into a new commercial venture per the DMOZ legal status/incorporation/licensing.

 

CE, sort of figures, money talks, AOL has done well since the directory was acquired.

I am going to start my own directory just for my sites and my friends one day soon.

PS: Bernard, I said automate the process, how does Yahoo do it?

 

I may be wrong, but, if they hired 20 full-time employees, they could probably approve more submissions than DMOZ does today.

 

AOL Acquires Netscape For $4.2 Billion

Notice the date on that, Anthony? More than 6 years ago. The deal was fully finalized in March 1999, almost 6 years ago.

If AOL hasn't done anything with DMOZ in 6 years, why do you expect a change now? or any time soon? or in our lifetimes?

 

Minstrel, in that time AOL acquired Time Warner which was the largest failure in corporate merger history.

So bad that Time Warner booted out Steve Case the mastermind of it and Ted Turner lost Billions in the deal, they have since changed the name of the company from AOL/Time Warner back to Time Warner and may spin off AOL in a shareholder distribution deal.

AOL is now becoming more of a portal versus an ISP and is now investing in search and has acquired Advertising.com about 6 months ago to compete in the online advertising game.

So you will see some changes coming up within their portfolio, they just introduced Netscape $9.95 per month dial up service to go head to head with NetZero. So they are now promoting the Netscape brand name again.

There are major changes going on at AOL because of massive loss of customers and executives have been replaced at a good clip in the last few years also.

 

You may have a point...

 

I know about that. I've seen a site that has 8 DMOZ listings for the same domain (or maybe 7 + 1 subdomain). The rules are to submit your site once - but when the siteowner is also an editall or a meta editor - he puts them into practice. Maybe this was it.

 

Got your point. Maybe I was wrong.

 

Hi Shawn

Can you please give me an advise how can i get my site on DMOZ, i submited my site about Two Month ago, but no result.

 

Lisa, seriously, the best advice amyone can give you is to submit and forget about it. Your site may be listed any time in the next few months, or not for another two or three years, or maybe never. Just move on and submit to other directories.

 

Ok I got It

 

Wow, old thread, but a good'un. Back to the original point of the thread, the "real value of dmoz listings" - At the time posted, I agree that it was in the number of sites that use dmoz to populate their own directories.

However, with speculation flying about TrustRank and the devaluation of purchased links, I think it's pretty close to certain that a link from dmoz mean a lot more than most other links

If TrustRank or something similar is in place, I think that dmoz would be one of, if not the most important source of "trust" on the Internet.

Google's duplicate content filter has also gotten better, which knocks out some of the benefit of the additional links. However, I'd imagine lots of the links from dmoz clones still contribute, at least to some extent. I've seen dmoz clones that have are indexed and have PR on really deep pages.

Sorry if someone already said something similar in the thread, didn't take time to go through everything

 

But of course that doesn't mean they are contributing anything to the PR of other pages they list - only that they have other pages linking to them.

I think Google has been devaluing the clones and is continuing to do that with each tweak or update. It will be interesting to see how BigDaddy plays out.

 

My site was listed for years, and it was them that inserted them, before I knew what Dmoz was. Then last year it was delisted, for no reason. The site is the same for 5 years now. I submitted again, and after many months, it still isn't there. So, submit and forget... and after some months, submit again