I have never implied that you are a bully, Annie (except sometimes with gworld ). I have, however, told you previously that sometimes I think you believe in and trust the wrong people.
True, but I only bully gworld for fun. Besides, I think he likes it. I think my last post was more trolling than anything else. shh..don't tell.
Everyone has their faults, including KC. They also have their strengths, of which the man has many. I don't agree with his way of communicating but there is no doubt in my mind that the main beneficiaries of his leaving the project would be corrupt editors. Bullying is a problem in DMOZ and always has been. It is not, by all accounts, anywhere near as bad as it was in the earlier years, but it still exists. It could be alleviated by enforcing a no tolerance policy based on the existing guidelines at http://dmoz.org/guidelines/communication.html#abuse and http://dmoz.org/guidelines/meta/general.html#communication . I would urge all editors who feel they have been bullied to report the matter via the Abuse Report system - don't just sit and take it. If enough people do that then it will have to be taken seriously. But this is not a particularly DMOZ problem, it happens on Wikipedia and on many forums including this one. The ultimate answer, if bullying is not addressed, is to walk and make it very clear why you have done so.
And potential new editors put off by Resource Zone tactics? And the general public reputation of DMOZ? ...and humanity in general?
I don't personally think that the ability to communicate effectively is a strength of some of the editors who post in RZ, and as you will know RZ is not well thought of inside DMOZ let alone outside. Given the heavy moderation and lack of questions you can actually ask, I am surprised anyone goes there any more. I have reported a bad post by a regular meta editor there I thought was rude, and it was moderated. Doesn't give a sh*t about DMOZ... most of it has never heard of DMOZ I am sure one or two editors have thought so. Admins in particular...
Not quite exactly brizzie. There are more in internal forum. Those are the ones that think that your a pain in the *** to them.
When you highlight issues that need to be addressed, those who don't want to address them for one reason or another will inevitably come to that conclusion. I would view that as a compliment. C'est la vie.
He is an ex-teacher. Has been an ex-teacher for some years. He stays at home. It implies something other than being "capable." Hey Annie, go check the record for my website. You can see his "quality" editing where he changed my site's description to state that I was only a partial author of the contents, and that rather than being a site about "spinning widget instruction" it has actually just an "image gallery."
You've said this before and I have to tell you, I find it very offensive. In your opinion, just what does it imply? In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with a man being the primary caretaker of his children. You should know that you are trashing very good men everywhere with this sweeping implication. My husband was a single dad before we were married, and his dedication to his son and daughter was/is admirable. Their mom abandoned them when they were still in diapers. My husband is a good man! My son is a single dad of an 8 year old son, and he does an awesome job. My grandson's mom repeatedly pops into his life for 1-2 months a year only to leave again. My son is a good man! 12 years ago, my brother was in a terrible accident (not his fault) that crushed his legs and created the need for him to have surgery after surgery for the rest of his life. His wife worked while he stayed home and raised the children. They had a wonderful marriage, and the kids are happy and well adjusted. He changed diapers and did all the cooking and housework while on crutches the majority of the time. He loved his kids dearly. Then he got pancreatic cancer last January and died last month, his oldest son is 15 years old. His son, having learned of family values from his dad, has stepped up and does all the cooking and helps run the household and takes care of his 2 younger sisters now that his mom has gone back to work to pay the bills. My brother was a good man! His son is showing the qualities of a good man! My nephew is a single father with a 7 year old daughter. His wife died a couple years ago and his daughter is suffering from cancer. He's completely devoted to her. You can read a little about his struggle here, and here, and here so I won't bother going into it here. My nephew is a good man! Based on what I know of men who stay at home to raise their children I have to tell you, I'm getting very sick of reading your nasty remarks. Please, tell me exactly what you are implying about men who stay at home with their children! All that aside, I fail to see how KC's family is any of your business or anyone elses. Good families do what works best for them. If they function well and the children are happy and society doesn't have to pay for them, then they're doing something right. I believe KC is a good man! It's getting to the point that don't even care about your website anymore or the reasons you may have been removed. You insist you don't care about a dmoz listing, but you certainly don't act like it. Any credibility you had is being overshadowed by your single-minded nastiness toward an imagined enemy. KC didn't get you removed. I understand you had a disagreement with him, but you need to understand that he isn't a meta, he wasn't a meta then and he had nothing to do with your removal. Other than pointing out something he thought wasn't right. I'd be willing to bet there are male members of this forum who are the primary care takers of their children and you should show some respect for them as well. Men raising children isn't all that uncommon. Your anger is misdirected, so please stop painting fathers who raise their children with such an ugly brush. Give them the credit they deserve!
I agree totally with Annie. My closest friend is a single dad of 3 and has been for the last 7 years after his wife died of cancer. According to him, staying at home and trying to bring up 3 young kids is infinitely tougher than going out to work ever was. I get to sample it every so often when I take them off his hands for a bit to give him a break, and he's right. I don't see what someone's domestic arrangements have to do with editing, there is no link. If you don't rate KC as an editor, OK, that's your opinion. But I never came across a single editing mistake on his part and in truth he is probably the best editor DMOZ has in terms of editing skill. And despite the editors his approach has upset, which includes me, to be fair there are many others who have expressed appreciation for his mentoring. If you don't like the approach you give back as good as you get or you ignore it. But to start making personal remarks of the ilk in this thread is out of order in my opinion.
You go annie and brizzie. There is definitely no love lost between kc and myself, but the negative remarks made here about kc are way out of line.
I would agree that kctipton is not an odious person because he stays at home, whether it's to look after his kids or for some other reason. He's an odious person because of his behavior at RZ and other forums. Or, to put it another way, he's not odious BECAUSE he stays home; he's odious AND he stays home. Is that better?
This post of your's made me re-read the first post. As a result, I can assume why you were turned down.
Would you people stop dragging me into discussions? Would you stop libeling me too? I have a BA in physics from a tough college. I have taught high school math and physics (but that's not all I've done). I am raising my kids full-time (and, yes, the wife works in a great, professional, white-collar job). None of those things deserves ridicule. As for my fitness of mind, it's not half as bad as that of some people who post in this (and other) threads where my name pops up.
Awww gee, cuz, where would the fun be in that. You may fool the outsiders with your big bad wolf suit, but the family knows you're just a lovable teddy bear underneath.