Who is whining? Everytime someone mentions DMOZ, you come in. Are you going to do something about the things that bother you, or not?
Get some sleep, ST. You're not even making sense any more. Go back and read your posts in this thread over the last 2 or 3 pages. And then, one more time and I really hope for the last time, go ahead and do it your way (whatever that is). Nobody is hindering you in the slightest. But stop complaining that some of us won't jump on your bandwagon du jour because we think your ideas on how to "fix DMOZ" are pointless and doomed. Just do it. If you believe in it, why the hell do you need me or my approval to proceeed?
You must be joking, why should AOL or Time Warner care about this, most of the people in management position probably haven't heard about DMOZ before. Corrupt DMOZ editors is nothing in comarision to accounting problem that forced them to restate $690 million in 2 years accounting or paying $300 million in fine to SEC. Time Warner & SEC settlement Forget about fixing DMOZ, it is too far gone. If you want to do something useful, concentrate on how to kill it which happens very fast if Google drops it.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DEAR GOD ALMIGHTLY THIS IS EXACTLY THE BULL THAT IM TALKING ABOUT (I went over and took a look at the infamous DMOZ resource-zone forum, and this is the first thing i read...): *********************************************** June 27, 2004 KRISH Please letme know the status fo my website www.scintro.com I have sumitted this site a month before. i forgot the category so i resubmitted it in kidsandteens/health/nutrition it is very informative webpage about fruits with nice pictures. Thanks. ........................................................ July 6, 2004 leannabartram Hi there! Actually, you submitted twice to Kids_and_Teens/Health/Nutrition and once to Kids_and_Teens/Directories Your site was not listed in Directories, one extra submission was deleted from Nutrition, and one copy awaits further review in Kids_and_Teens/Health/Nutrition. Hope this helps! ........................................................ July 29, 2004 KRISH Hi Thanks for the reply just i am curious how long still it will take. Thanks. Krish ........................................................ July 29, 2004 leannabartram Actually, it ranges anywhere between a couple of days and many months. Sorry I can't be more specific. You can request another update 6 months from your last request, though. ........................................................ October 31, 2004 KRISH Hi, Sorry for bothering you much. As it is 3 months from your last message i thought I can check once again for the status. If you can please help me. ........................................................ October 31, 2004 motsa - MODERATOR You'll notice that she said you could come back for an update in 6 months, not 3. That means that you can come back here after Jan. 7, 2005, to get another status update. ........................................................ January 7, 2005 KRISH Hi, I want to check the status of my site now. Thanks. ........................................................ January 7, 2005 sole - EDITALL It has been deleted from consideration. You are welcome to resubmit once the site is finished. Our editors attempted reviewing the site several times and noted that only pages for a and b were done. They were waiting for the rest of the alphabet before completing our review. However, finally it removed from the queue because it was taking too long. As I said, you can resubmit once the site is finished. ........................................................ resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18219 POOR GIRL!!! SHE WAITED A FREAKING YEAR TO HEAR BACK FROM THOSE BASTARDS AND THEN ONLY TO GET REJECTED!!! THEY CANT TELL HER THAT AFTER LIKE A WEEK OR WHAT??? BURN DMOZ!!! BURN!!! TRACK ME DOWN AND FIND ME!!! DELETE ALL MY WEBSITES FROM YOUR DATABASE!!! I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY YOU RAT BASTARDS ON RAGING POWER TRIPS WHO ARENT EVEN NATIVE SPEAKERS OF ENGLISH AND CANT EVEN FREAKING TELL WHAT A WEBSITE IS ABOUT!!!
This is a weird rant. The "poor girl" submitted a site that wasn't built. A year later it still wasn't completed! Maybe if the "poor girl" would have spent that year working on her site rather than waiting she would be listed.
Missing the point completely. What sort of organization takes a year (or longer -- more than 4 years in some cases) to make a decision about a submission and inform the webmaster? Are you associated with DMOZ, compostannie?
Minstrel - You have to admit that was a pretty weird rant. Especially with so many legitimate reasons
I'm not going to defend the entire rant... the author can do that. But the main point, that it took a year for someone to give any information at all, is the one that catches my eye. Would it not have been possible somewhere in that year for someone to say, "your site is under construction and will be deleted from the queue... resubmit when it's finished"?
minstrel, yes, I am an editor. In this particular case, editors waited a year before giving up on the site. It was a promising site, therefore it was held and looked at many times by many editors hoping to list it. It's too bad she didn't finish it. I like it.
Annie, trust me, we know. A brandnew member coming in straight to defend DMOZ is a very common phenomenon around here.
Come on minstrel, you know the answer. If they start doing strange things like letting people know their submission statue, then how can editors charge $25 for the report?
What sort of webmaster takes a year to build a site and wastes editors time by submitting before completion. Seems we were overly forgiving to let it sit for all that time hoping she would fix it.
But nobody bothered to tell her that... don't you get it? What sort of organization repeatedly tells the world that it is too busy to even implement an automated reply script and then wastes a year before someone with a bit of humanity and integrity finally comes along to let the webmaster know that the submission isn't eligible?
I can't believe how much time these so-called "editors" waste telling us how good DMOZ is, instead of making it better by doing their volunteer job, or handing it over to someone who will.
Because the joy of being an editor is I can edit whenever I want to - and if I want to come here and argue in these wonderful forums, I can do that. If you want to volunteer because you think I'm not doing enough - feel free - how many hours a week are you willing to spend - how good a job are you planning to do, or is it just that you want your site listed - in which case, don't apply.
haha...some of ya guys need to chillax its ok to laugh sometimes i wasn't being THAT serious. i think minstrel saw the real point: dmoz takes WAY TOO LONG at...rejecting websites that apply. and its all for show. read those damn forums, the webmasters are sitting there with their balls chopped off sucking up to the editors for some sign of life and progress on their site submission, and all the editors just play them on like ugly girls at a high school dance. its the saddest thing ive ever read. and if you happen to get at all critical or ask too many questions, they ban you from the forum, and delete your website, but only after making you wait at least 6 months to hear about it. you call that professional??? YOU GOTTA BE JOKING. a human edited directory. yes its a wonderful idea. but how can anyone, even nice editors who are in their own bubble of kindness, defend the total BS that dmoz has become? google must have some secret nasty reason for keeping this partnership up, because at least half of the descriptions they write are HORRIBLE and there is no real reason i can see for continuing to use a 3rd party directory after years of google being around except...laziness, and an easy way to say "hey, we aren't biased in our search results, we support the non-profit directory...so BAH"... i would be fine with dmoz in any case if their work didnt OVERRIDE my own meta tags and website design work!!! understand?? its terribly frustrating. i hope editors can one day understand what some of us here are trying to relay....since they won't read my emails or any of my contact attempts.