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Dmoz confusion, abuse??

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by jestep, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. #1
    I was just looking at my category in the DMOZ today and I noticed a specific description link for the category of card processing. I hadn't seen this before so I checked it out:

    Linked Page:
    So these are the requirements for being listed in this category. Seems fair enough. This means that an actual registered provider is the only company that can be listed in this category. Should keep the category subject to the companies that pay the tens of thousands of dollars to register with Visa and MasterCard.

    Now my question is do editors have to adhear to these rules as well?

    The reason that I ask is that Out of the 72 sites listed in the category:
    24 of them are not registered ISO's.
    3 are blatant affiliate sites.
    4 lead to blank pages (404, Parked Pages, or a blank domain).
    2 were expired and re-registered by different companies.
    4 are completely in the wrong category.
    SEMrush
    Total 37 of 72 sites should not be in this category.

    I'm not sure whether this is abuse, neglect or just an editor that is watching over the wrong category. There is no 'become an editor link' so I must assume that someone is supposed to be watching this.
     
    jestep, Jan 12, 2006 IP
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    Could you link to the DMOZ page?
     
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    jestep Prominent Member Premium Member

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    Its the card processing category:
    http://dmoz.org/Business/Financial_Services/Merchant_Services/Card_Processing/

    I have a list of the sites, but I didn't want to post it here. I didn't think it would be appropriate to do that.

    Also, out of the 24 sites that are not registered ISO's, it is possible that they are, but not displaying it on their websites. In this case, the editor should never had added them in the first place.
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    Yeah, this is one of those cases where the old "what is your definition of is" comes into play.
     
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    jestep Prominent Member Premium Member

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    I sort of figured it was something like that.

    They should at least remove the affiliate links and non existent websites. I submitted a report just because there are so many sites that by Visa and MasterCard's definition, are not registered, as well as the affiliate and broken sites.

    I didn't really want to post this because there is so much 'DMOZ wont list my site' and 'this editor is only listing his own sites' posts and I didn't want to make another one.

    Anyway, the editor should definitely do some clean up at the very least.
     
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    Totally agree. I hope the first editor reading this will pass it on instead of wasting people's energy with "explanations" no one cares to hear. Just clean it up, guys and move on ! (and yes: it was a great idea to make this thread IMO :) )
     
    Blogmaster, Jan 12, 2006 IP
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    jestep - thanks for finding that. :)

    I put in a request to have the category looked at. One of two things should happen - either the sites will be moved or the category description will be changed. If I had to hazard a guess, I would think the sites would be moved.

    I can't guarantee when it'll happen though.
     
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    lol... typical of DMOZ...
     
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    I'm curious if DMOZ runs any programs that checks to see if sites are down for extended periods of time; and if they are, are they automatically removed or must each site be removed manually?
     
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    Yes. There is an automated tool that will do this. If a site is found to be down the tool will move the site back to the review pool with a special status. A human editor must look at the site to either relist it (changed url, or the site is up again) or delete it from the pool.
     
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    The category has had some attention paid to it already - how's that for the "no guarantee" time frame? :D
     
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    I have to say there are some real idiots who frequent these forums - can anyone explain why a post that says "thank you and we'll try to do something" deserves a red rep with a comment of "Take your rep and shove it"
     
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    For the same reason that a comment of mine saying "we all know that there is corruption in DMOZ" got one asking "How do you know?" ;)
     
    Blogmaster, Jan 13, 2006 IP
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    jestep Prominent Member Premium Member

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    What about sites that expire or are sold. There was one or two that something like this happened to and now it is a page that doesn't resemble the site that should be there. Im assuming that this would require either someone reporting it, or and editor reviewing the sites in their category.
     
    jestep, Jan 13, 2006 IP
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    jestep Prominent Member Premium Member

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    My point as to why I was hesitant about posting this. I see hostility from people who cant get their sites listed, and then more hostility from people who are sick of seeing the same people complaining about it. Then when a legitimate question pops up, everyone jumps on the poster.
     
    jestep, Jan 13, 2006 IP
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    Those types of sites take a little longer to catch, finding urls that redirect to others is fairly easy but when the url itself stays but the content changes dramatically it takes a little longer to detect and remove. If you have specific urls and want to help, you can alert editors to them either via the "Update Listing" link at the top of the category page or through RZ and someone should be able to have a look more quickly.

    Hope that helps.
     
    shadow575, Jan 13, 2006 IP