DMOZ as an SEO/Linkbuilding tool, as claimed by an editor!

No, I just hate paranoid system claiming to be global community while in realty all power is kept by very small group of people who doesn't trust anyone outside their circle which has zero responsibility to anyone and can do whatever it likes and nobody will hold them accountable for any kind of mistakes or violation they do - which are almost impossible to know about since everything inside meta circle is treated with such secrecy that any intelligence agency would be jealous.

So DMOZ IS about webmasters??? I thought it was about average surfer? You should really update does guidelines... BTW if you spent as much time on editing as you do ranting in this forum you might run into nice submission I keep sending to DMOZ but takes ages to list despite websites being public institutions - I don't dare submit some porn/pills website in fear it will get listed in dozen categories over night.

IIRC unlike Topix my website got 9 deeplinks before I even become editor so that would make it worth 9 times more.

Remember to thank metas on their wise decision to remove me since I might have still been some minor editor editing in some obscure totally irrelevant categories nobody cares about instead of trolling here.

 

You seem to miss points:

You say the way to get a site in is a bribe. Your site is there multiple times.

Have you ever paid a bribe to Dmoz?

Sorry Ivan, just pointing out that you are nothing but a congenital liar. If you haven't really paid a bribe your credibility is zip now.

 

Where exactly did I use word routinely? Fact IS that calradia.com got delisted immediately after I announced that I'm the new owner and that category wasn't maintained by anyone after my removal although I've attempted to keep it up to date in vain by submitting new website.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=8310195
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=8310313

Whatever, as long as you don't start saying gworld and me are the same person... I don't want to get sued for mental health problems and have to pay minstrel for your treatments.

English please.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=8310195
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=8310313

Okay, this is getting scary, you are starting to remained of annie before she discovered she need surgery.

 

Ivan - You have told us many times the way to get in is a bribe. Your site is in multiple times.

Either you are lying or you paid... pick ONE.

 

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=8310195
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=8310313

Please show me those posts in which I have said that or only liar here is YOU!

Are you practicing for meta editor? Manufacturing false evidence and twisting anything person says to suite made up charges seems to be their specialty.

 

The lie about the "lightning fast" removal of ex-editor sites comes to mind immediately. Many ex-editors (including yourself) have sites in ODP, so forget recoiling in horror to simply pointing out you're a liar... that's fact.

On the bribery I'll track down a nice quote, post it, and ask you yet again. Unlike the bleeding heart guys I don't believe "the poor surfer" will be harmed in the least if one or two sites of congenital liars gets nuked, and your stated desire to attempt to harm dmoz may be a fly swatting at a lion, but I don't mind us swatting back regardless.

So you just keep handing me ammo, cause I'm tired of assisting little toadies that lie about us daily. You don't deserve any benefit that might be available from a listing you frequently scoff at. Again, time's on my side.

 

But obviously the poor surfer will be harmed if the affiliate doorway pages are removed or not be listed hundred times.

DMOZ not so quality links.

 

They do need legitimate excuse (owner change) to remove or we could scream abuse for eternity, but since nobody cared to check that category ever again motives for removal are clear even to a blind person!

And if you don't find it? You'll list calradia.com and all of its subdomains (Russian website is pretty good)?

Considering my website is only one on the entire internet for several topics yep who cares about poor surfers, DMOZ sure doesn't.

You mean I'm talking to some spoiled brat who is much more younger then me?

 

ROFL Ivan I have to say that your sense of humour is starting to grow on me.

I just find everything you say so funny. You know you will have some people believing that stuff about your sites being removed because you are an ex-editor. You really ought to put more clowns on here to show that you are cracking huge jokes. And Metas like SS how about offering some details of the torture chambers they have for unrepentant heretics who dare to say anything against them. Thumb screws, rack, eyes gouged out, you know what I mean, you do that stupid stuff so well. You are just such a huge joke, Ivan. Please stop winding Bob up he is a sensitive person.

 

All metas had to do to expose me as fraud is to reveal the reason and show so-called evidence on which they have based their decision for my removal, since they have failed to do that for over a year now I think it safe to conclude that there is better chance of WMD being found then that so-called evidence actually exist.

 

The meta team does not have to prove anything. The burden of proof is on you and you alone. As the guidelines clearly state that they can not give out that type of information without a court order.

Maybe you could take AOL to court?

Who are we to to believe? An ex-editor that claims innocence, or a group of meta's that are unwilling to say one way or the other, yet claim you are lying?

 

Yep, your guilty of crime but your not allowed to know which one and you have to prove your innocences without possibility to see evidence against you.

If I lived in US I probably would, since I'm using my real name huge damaged was done to my image and I could sue AOL for lot of money!

From recent events at Croatian Wikipedia, I can say admins stick together even they are wrong and initially divided but in order to preserve status quo they are willing to ban long term contributor!?? (but unlike DMOZ only for a month but that is more then enough damage done and it is big question if contributor will work as hard as before)

For someone who is suppose to be impartial when it comes to breaking some unwritten code they are willing to break any wiki rule to enforce there will.

 

Why do I not find it surprising that you have ran afoul of another online community? Even with the openness at Wikipedia you are still not happy. Exactly what is it you want Ivan? Might I suggest that working with a community of an online project in a productive way is not high on your list.

 

Well, I know what productivity Ivan has done, may I ask what have you done lately?

Honestly, you truly need to be careful where you are pointing things, they just may backfire on you. As it stands, you telling anyone to fess up to their ODP login name, or even pointing out someone edits or lack of edits is rather odd...as even with my lonely 6 additions to the project, one of which was even mine, shows that I've done much more then you have...unless you'd like to show otherwise?

So come Nebby... just how productive are you in such an online community as DMOZ? I know that Ivan posted 300 competitors. What have you done?

 

I tire of this discussion. Dearest Ivan has been moaning about the lack of openness at the ODP. I am pointing out that at a community that is much more open than the ODP he is still having a good ole bleat. You say that you know that "Ivan posted 300 competitors". That number is incorrect. Most of what you say is factually incorrect. The number of sites I have added is none of your business, but it is many thousand. Yawn….

 

After 15,000 or so edits, numbers become unimportant. The last time I looked I think I was over 25,000, but that's a little meaningless becuse it's easier to rack up edit numbers in the area of the Directory I edit in.

Other areas require more investigating, or a greater amount of time to find new sites, so the amount of actual work an editor does can't be quantified by numbers alone but by numbers, the area of the Directory and the quality of the edits.

A meta knows how to weigh all of those things together.

 

Nothing to do me, I have always stayed at a distance from Croatian Wikipedia (I barely have 2596 edits) because of such things happening to contributors on a regular basis, I feel more comfortable on Bosnian and Serbian wikipedias since they manage to keep admin abuse under control.

Problem with Croatian wikipedia is same as DMOZ, admins are suppose to police themselves since Jimbo doesn't understand Croatian and can't intervene with his authority like he does on English wikipedia and with very small group of active admins who know each other they tend to stick together.

 

Yes but compared to DMOZ it is growing at exponential rate and there are no conspiracy theories.

You have my permission to post here my entire editing log, every edit I've ever made, that way anyone will be able to see supposed pattern of abuse I was doing.

 

Your tired of it? What of all the people that have to listen to you carrying on calling the kettle black? You saying your edit count is that big and wanting us to believe it falls under the same logic that we should trust the meta team when they say that someone broke the rules. The only proof you've given us is your posting style here, and frankly, the only thing that proves is that you have nothing to contribute, so how are we to believe you have "thousands of edits".

In fact, from my understanding your edit count only only a few hundred, and only from a handful of categories. You are only just a little bit more worthy then I was as an editor and you know it. That's why you hide behind a false name.

If the truth came out you'd be embarrassed at how small your edit count is compared to the rest of us ex-eds.

Sorry nebby, you are just a lot of talk.

 

The brand new editor who posted on the ODP blog has acheived 3,000 edits in just two months, so numbers really don't tell the whole story. I've probably only done 30 to 50 in the last month, because I just haven't felt like editing lately.

When I'm in the mood, and buckle down, I could probably do a hundred a day, depending on where I'm editing and what kind of edits I'm doing. An edit doesn't equal a site reviewed and added, there are many jobs that count as an edit.

Even though I'm not editing right at this moment, commenting here might still be considered helping the Directory in some fashion.

I'm sure that whoever neb is, he/she isn't lying, but probably hasn't even bothered to look at the exact number because it's not all that important. I check mine about once a year, just for kicks, but until I reach a milestone like 50,000, it's really unimportant. Even then, it's just a personal satisfaction thing.