DMOZ - a test of ethics

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by accountability, Jan 21, 2005.

  1. William

    William Well-Known Member

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    #21
    And i didn't think it good become any worse over there :p

    I hope there is a big clean up soon. either that or they close it. Don´t think either will happen though. Maybe google could start their own directory without using dmoz
     
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  2. Blogmaster

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    #22
    There is a lot more to come, starting now!
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #23
    I guess I kinda wonder just how much bearing something like DMOZ really has on the SE/SEO world. My guess would be less than one one billionth of a percent.
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #24
    I went over to their forum about a month ago, having been given some advice that they could give you a status on your submission.

    I was shocked to see the posts there. I left the site thinking the surest way to never get my site in DMOZ is to post there. I was not about to make a post on the status of several sites after what I read there.

    I have a number of non-affiliate sites I've tried to get listed for years with no success. After reading about the problems they are having internally and various other things, I won't be trying anymore.

    I realize not "all" editors there do these things, but "all" is not a common denominator before one recognizes a problem. I do wish them luck and hope they can restore some level of integrity.
     
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  5. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #25
    The most ridiculous and most frequently repeated defense of the mess that is DMOZ is "we're all volunteers".

    Okay. And? That justifies the condescending close-minded defensive hypocrisy and the outright attacks on anyone who dares question what they do?
     
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  6. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #26
    Finally, DMOZ and I agree on one thing ......... banning ST :eek:

    PS: Just kidding ST :p :confused:

    OK ST, quit causing trouble everywhere, OK :)
     
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  7. Las Vegas Homes

    Las Vegas Homes Guest

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    #27
    Yes they are all volunteers that are there to help their sites and anyone who doesnt compete with them in their industry or anyone who is willing to bow down to the preceived power they have. On another note they say the directory is not for serp seekers,but I say why else would you want to be listed in there...LOL how many people go to dmoz to search for a product.

    On another forum there was a very good point made. In Las vegas there is a little over 17,000 real estate agents, out of that only 185 listings pertain to Las Vegas real estate. Las Vegas is known for having a lot of sites on the net for this market but yet only 185 listed in dmoz, go figure.
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #28
    Yep. And one of the editors in the "Resourceless Ozone" forum actually said, "We already have 185 real estate sites listed in the directory -- why would anyone want any more?"

    Hmmm... we already have 640kb RAM -- why would anyone want any more?
     
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  9. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #29
    The Minstrel Directory, please contact me Minstrel so I can help you start this.

    I am sure that your photo is on a dartboard at DMOZ with all of your websites listed, to hit a bullseye means between yours.

    You must be public enemy # 1 over there by now Minstrel, so let me know when you are ready to start your directory, I will help you because none of your sites will ever be in DMOZ :p :confused: :p
     
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  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #30
    There are already plenty of directories -- for the life of me, I don't know why DMOZ is even still alive.
     
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  11. anthonycea

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    #31
    They got a good thing going and AOL will automate it one day as we discussed, just wait and see Minstrel.

    The more pressure you put on them the faster the editors will all get fired and change will be made, because it is way past due at this point.
     
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  12. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #32
    Your old pal Birdie was just in here but he went away without commenting...
     
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  13. anthonycea

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    #33
    CBP is alright I guess, he is a member, he just can't ban me 3 or 4 times like he did at WPW :eek:
     
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  14. Blogmaster

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    #34
    and it goes on ... http://www.ihelpyouservices.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16137&perpage=20&pagenumber=2 sorry guys, but they are just ganging up on me, it's rediculous. GTech's post is a great example of what I have been noticing for a long time. No help comes out of RZ .. it is simply a way for editors to vent their frustrations. If you guys don't wanna get worked up, don't read it .. I am done instigating.

    By the way: wowdirectory is one of my favs. And Bruce had been told by DMOZ editors that it will NEVER be listed :confused:
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #35
    what?

    You do realize that one owns the other right? It's all the same.. It's not like one just got some big contract with the other, or lucked out and is getting something they would not already get.

    Anyway, the average person (net user) has no clue who D is, nor could they care. Either way I have no complaints since I only tried submitting a couple times only to find that most of my sites were already listed. How? Me thinks that many of the sites in DMOZ are not submitted by the authors :)
     
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  16. Blogmaster

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    #36
    I used to admire the ODP but now have lost every bit of respect I ever had. There is no need for anyone to invest energy into them ... they are going down and holding on to that little bit of power based on a dying image.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #37
    Just be sure to clarify that this is "Open Directory Project", not Office Depot.. Don't want to piss anyone off at that ODP camp :) Besides they are not going down, they are up around what .31 today?

    I should really get some sleep now..
     
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  18. minstrel

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    #38
    Good idea, mia -- you're not making sense.

    .31 what? and who? and who the heck mentioned Office Depot?
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #39
    It is but a joke. "ODP" is the stock ticker for "Office Depot" (one of those mean nasty US corporations.)

    .31 is a way of denoting currency. ".31" or 31 cents (US dollars of course). That (.31) is what the stock price was up today (well yesterday anyway.)

    <post sacarcasm>
     
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  20. minstrel

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    #40
    I like Office Depot (Staples) -- didn't know it was also ODP.
     
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