Disprove any, and you can disprove all. . .but you can't, huh???

If any of SCRIPTURE ("The Bible") is a lie, then it should be provable (or disprovable), right?
All of Scripture has withstood the test of time and scrutiny because no one, no one, no one, has been able to, honestly, accurately, and successfully, discredit any, let alone, all of it. Here's an example from the very "beginning" of Scripture, "In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth (Genesis 1:1)".
Now then, to all you "ats/ags", and your Science, if, "In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth.", didn't just happen in the exact way that one sentence says, then since "the beginning", some of your ilk should have been able to discredit it, right?. . .in much the same way as "Global Warming" has been discredited, huh?
Yes, you've come up with what you have been doo-fuss-ly led to believe were "contradictions" of certain Scripture, but much like I did to ncz_nate, your perceived "contradictions" has only led to your clocks being cleaned. . .by showing you that they weren't really "contradictions" at all, huh?
There IS GOD, WHO has Chosen (because HE IS AWESOMELY GOD) to hide HIMSELF from all of those who are just to dad-gum dumb to NOT believe that HE IS, ". . .and that HE IS a Rewarder of all those who diligently seek HIM (Hebrews 11:6)"...
. . .but about unbelievers, HE says,
"How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? Turn you at MY reproof: behold, I will pour out MY SPIRIT unto you, I will make known MY WORDs unto you. Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out MY hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all MY counsel, and would none of MY reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear comes; When your fear comes as desolation, and your destruction comes as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish comes upon you. Then shall they call upon ME, but I will not answer; they shall seek ME early, but they shall not find ME: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of THE LORD: They would none of MY counsel: they despised all MY reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. But whoso hearkeneth unto ME shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil. (Proverbs 1:22-33)".

 

Can ghosts be disproven? Can fairies be disproven? What about aliens, can you disprove that they do exist and are watching us?
I don't think it is up to those who don't believe to prove that any belief is false, but rather to those who believe in somehing to prove that it is true. But then, you don't need to prove it because you have faith and don't care about proof anyways.

 

No. Wrong. wwwSENSERELYcom gave a good example why.

So did Astrology, tarot cards, graphology and a lot of other myths. This still does not make them true.
Modern science can not exist with the scriptures. In many cases these two approaches are extremely contradictory. Here is an example:

BEEEEP. Very wrong, again.
No, in the beginning god did not create the earth.
Our solar system did not appear when/in parralel with the creation of the universe (some 12bn years ago). Our sun (and earth) is a 2nd generation star, created 4.5 bn years ago or so.
Compare: The age of the Universe with the age of earth

When stars are initially formed they do not contain "heavy elements" (heavier than Iron, the most stable nucleus - No copper or Gold or silver or Uranium, etc'). Planets, such as planet earth, that contain such elements, were created after an initial star has reached the end of his life: stars die in a collossal magnificent explosions (like Supernovas) and various other mechanisms. For example, our star (the sun, not earth which is a planet), will die in 5 bn and will become a Red Giant. Only in such explosions, heavier elements can be formed trough nuclear fusion, and the "stellar dust" which is spread throughout the universe is later absorbed into new stars which form to create 2nd or 3rd star generations. Our planet (and most of our galaxy) are among those.

There are no "contradictions" with the scriptures, as these are not scientific texts and say absolutely nothing. So if it says nothing, there is nothing to contradict. These were written by people when the understanding of humanity regarding the natural world was not much more advanced than the caveman's.

According to your arbitrary faith. Nothing supports this postulation: not evidence, not philosophy, and not logic.

 

Any evidence Nehemiah... I am a big fan of evidence. I eat the stuff for breakfast.

 

Written Text; Written Text; Written Text. . .you know. . .the kind that SOMEONE must have written. . .and they wrote it in such a way that demands knowing that it had to have been dictated to said writer(s). So then, which of your proven ed Casper "ghosts", or proven ed Tinker Bell "fairies", or proven ed Alf "aliens" have written that which can be dis-proven ed?
Its all about what is written. . .if you don't believe that, then THE WHO THAT IS GOD, chooses not to reveal HIMSELF to you (try reading Hebrews 11:6). . .just as it is written, ". . .If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded..."; (". . .Moses and the prophets...", was one of the ways that Scripture was referred to as during JESUS' day.)

Good answer; whenever you have no refutation/rebuttal of your own, always agree with someone just as wrong as you are. . .huh?

So its been a really really long time since you had "breakfast", huh?
It is written, "The heavens declare THE GLORY of GOD; and the firmament shows HIS handy work.". . .but also (in two separate places no less), "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no GOD."

 

A book? Come on..
Didn't it occured to you that it's a bit strange that your imaginary friend waited for humans to invent writing before he dictated the book? Why not producing a book all by himself? Or dictate a book before humans learnt to read and write? This would be more impressive if a book was written before man invented writing don't you think?
ALSO, since man invented the internet, why your imaginary friend doesn't communicate again, dictating some webmaster to create a website full of amazing stuff?

What about yourself. You happen to believe in something, what if you were born in another society from parents believing in another religion? Wouldn't you believe in ANY religious belief you'd have happened to be taught in your childhood, when you were mentally defenseless?

I thought so.

And by the way, be careful, because wanting others to disprove your beliefs could mean you're asking yourself too many questions, it might not be good for your faith and you might eventually lose it if you do too many researches, think about it, you don't want to realize you've wasted tens of years of your life believing this nonsense. You'd better not think too much about it, just believe in it and think about something else. Just an advice.

 

Nehemia, I also ridiculed "In the beginning, GOD Created the Heavens and the Earth.", which in light of KNOWLEDGE (differentiate from faith and myth), is not true.
You ignored that. I thought you would.

 

ANd you choose wikipedia as a reference better than the bible? WikiPEDIA, the site that is human edited by any 10yr old..............wow.

 

Even a 10 year old today is more knowledgable than people who wrote the bible.

 

What I said can be named as "a very basic, fundamental, and undisputed piece of knowledge regarding the universe". Something like: "Cats have fur", or "most birds can fly".
Wikipedia was just a decoration. A good intro for those who lack the relevant knowledge. I suggest you have a read in those Wikipedia links I posted, if you think you can understand what's written there.

And also:

Indeed.

 

That's probably one of the most foolish sentences I've heard in Digital point since I've been here......

I've been through over 2,000 pages(certian science related topic) on wikipedia and the information is either outdated of just plan writen absolutely inncorrectly.

No, I'm not reading that crap again. Its all just a big scientific "Theory". You remember what theory means right? That's when someone has an idea, plans it out, then writes or talks about it. What I find funny is that you are so willing to agree with anyone elses' theory just as long as its not God's one. You even will go as far as reading from wikipedia...........Sounds like you do believe in God as its pretty hard to hate something that does not exist.

This makes you under 10yr olds then? No one person in the world can fully or even close to understand the bible. Its too complex for anyone to learn within their lifetime. Do you understand the holy spirit bit? No, you don't, so why say that any 10yr old is smarter than the writer while you don't even understand it.

If so, I'd like to see you try to explain it since it is not the toughest part of the bible to get.

 

You should, you might learn something.

There are many scientific theories. Some are valid, some are not. But the overwhelming amount of evidence that support this specific theory has elevated it since decades beyond the definition of a mere "theory". The younger age of the earth in comparison with the much older age of the universe is not disputed. But not only that, If you would have read my initial post and tried put a LITTLE effort to actually understand it, you would have understand that the age of earth can be the as the age of the universe - or else our existence would have been impossible - in natural ways.

Believe me, I do.

This is how it usually starts. But not how it ends. Unless we're talking about......

.... about God's one.

Never say never.

The usual logical fallacy of the blind believers.

Of course - it is ridiculous and it says absolutely nothing meaningful that can be tested and compared to reality.

It is not complex at all - it says nothing.
Here is a even a more complex text for you:
"euhhhoah. Then the man said: 'forgive me father!'. thy shalt not populate eggs in empty fridge with mustard toppings on them. popoplululududuba. bobo pupulalala. archimimididis. "

Neither do you understand the holy spirit, which does not exist.

I don't tend to explain fairy tales in my spare time, I have better things to do.

 

Becuase something makes sense does not mean that it is valid. I've studied over 60 different theories of dinosaur extinction from the Gulf of Mexico Asteroid to the caterpillers overpopulating and eating all of the plants.
Someone had a theory on dinosaur eggs being layed too thin from dinosaur stress and the atmosphere change. The eggs would never survive and within a century all species would be gone, and it makes sense. From the evidence of the volcano's with the sulfer and what not would've created stress in reptile-like creatures and since we know that this is common with modern day birds and reptiles then I guess he's right.

Accept its just piles of little pieces of evidence behind a theory(idea from someone).

Nobody knows crap with how the dinosaurs died. Actually about 90% of all paleotologists think that dinosaurs evolved into modern birds becuase they found 40 dinosaurs with feathers, and one species that had no thumb(lol). And you go talk to them about some asteroid and they will rip your head off saying it was proven and what not.

Your little big-bang theory is a "THEORY". Theories are not enough to believe in.

I can see just fine.

All verses of the new testiment are meant to be compared with reality in these times. You must have not read it before. Its only available to those who want it. Those who do not want it are not forced so relax. The bible is down with freedom so why hate?

More emotional feelings against a faith that you refuse to accept?. I don't hate science, the old monkey that scientists mention they found, or the lochness monster. Where does it say in your heart that you are obliged to be automatically against God (oh wait....it was written in the bible that people would do this. And you almost got me thinking that the bible can't be compared to reality until now).

 

For the record GrAveTzT... Gravity is just a theory so maybe you shouldn't believe in it. Intelligent falling is much more logical in your case. I bet religious people called some of us Gravitationists back in the day.

 

I forget to mention this before so I might as well backtrack here. So let me get this straight. You believe that the bible is totally fake and you believe that any 10yr old can overwelm the group who wrote the bible in knowledge but when I ask you to explain a little bit of details on the "fake" holy spirit and what it means you decide to back down and not.

Its obvious you don't know much about the bible because the holy spirit is one of the most important and simple thing about Christianity. So why should people listen to your judgement on the bible if you don't know jack about it?
Seriously.

I think you and your friend are running out of material here. You are blaming religious people today for something that "possibly" could've happened more than a decade ago. The media said that drinking coca-cola will help you lose weight in the 50's. So to you I suppose that means that its Universal studio productions fault now?

Let it go. You refuse to have any knowledge of the something that you are being prejudice against. You hate religion and you don't know why.

 

I was a Christian most of my life. It's not that I hate religion... it's just that I love evidence and the truth.

 

You are wrong. Holy shit is one of the most important part of Christianity. You hear about grown up people in the 21st century who still believe in such nonsense BS as holy spirit, and you go: HOLY SHIT.

 

That's good!
People who hate things they know nothing about are not my kind of preferred company

How is it obvious?
Actually, I know a lot about the bibles of many kinds. More than you can imagine.

 

Psssst, little girl. I have some candy for you. All you need to do is get in my truck and I'll give you some candy.

Yea, heard it before and I won't fall for it this time either.....

 

I knew that this topic starter geek dude was about to be toasted alive by typing out some topic like this, so heck I might as well throw some defence.

To you have some sort of human responsibility to just run into a topic and be immature and offensive. It doesn't bother me because I've been online since 94 but seriously. You are acting so childish. No one thing has come from you backed with any statment that is above a grade 5 level in a school yard.
"Yo, a 10yr old can write the bible better........"
"Yo, Holy shit is better than the holy spirit, DUDE".

Wow, the internet should be barred from people who need supervision on it.

I don't believe you both. Explain the Holy spirit. Its only a few lines. You've written more here refusing to explain it than it would take to explain it.



Anyway, the three of you are the perfect team. You are like cops.
-One of you is completely offensive, nasty, immature, and your plan is to simply laugh at anything regarding religion to make it look stupid.
-Another grazes a bunch of things on the science trying to throw something else in it.
-and the third is to counter anything I say.

Me, I don't need a plan becuase either way I win. By being Christian if I'm right I'll stay alright, by being wrong I'll be where you are when you are dead(gone). I'm running on a 100% pass rate, you three are running at 50%.
I like my chances better than yours.

It doesn't say anything about candy, vehicles, women so your way off. Grow up.