disclosing adsense pub- a/c number

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by chiplonkar, Aug 31, 2006.

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    How safe is it to disclose the publisher's pub- number (which we put in our sites) to sites asking for this number for their ad revenue sharing sites ?

    Should one do it ?

    Chiplonkar
     
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  2. TheSyndicate

    TheSyndicate Prominent Member

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    If you check any normal website "view source" you can see the adsense pub number so there is no real secret about it its not like your visa number.
     
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  3. chiplonkar

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    Yes it is true that one can easily see this number in HTML code, I know. But this will happen only when some one visits your page. That is anyway not in your control. But I was asking about sharing this number on your own to somebody. Is any misuse possible ? Coming back to the question, are share ad revenue sites safe for sharing this info ?
     
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    I think there is no way to protect this number since it is pub, i guess public :) there is no way to hide. So if it is safe or not it is up to you. In other words, don't let friends, or enemies know where is your site or how much you make using Adsense. It can also eliminate click frauds.
     
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    The only thing that I could see happening is that if someone got hold of it then they could put it on a site that breaks Adsense TOS just to get you banned, but they can then do that anyway from looking at your websites source code.
     
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    I agree, that's why keep away from friends and enemies and your family, because if you get banned it will cost you and it will be a long time for you to recover your account.
     
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    To make money you also have to put the SITE in the admin in adsense. if some one put it on a crack site and you get banned for it i am sure you can talk to google about it. You will see as soon as some one click and can stop it pretty quick. Google is am sure aware of this problem and would not ban some one for it.
     
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    While it is an easy matter to get someone's AdSense code, this is a different situation than when you voluntarily give that information for use by another person. While any revenue goes to you, you cannot control the content of their site nor whether they become the victim of click attacks.

    Having said that, you need to look at this from the perspective that you are entering a business partnership with that person and that site. You need to be confident that they are not going to abuse that trust and that they are not going to change directions in ways which hurt you.

    I personally think it is a mistake to jump into any old revenue sharing deal offered on the web. I would only do that at a well established site and where the policies and tone of the site match mine.
     
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    How do you put your site in the admin in Adsense? I have never seen that option.

     
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    This forum at digitalpoint.com itself is one such AD revenue sharing forum. I always see ad on Top Right hand side. Your reply has precisely answered my question. Thanks a lot. The fact that you have no control over the contents of the site offering Ad sharing is THE answer. So I will not go for it.

    But if one has to keep the code away from " friends, enemies, and family " then who will see your pages ? Friends and enemies cover all people !!
     
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    if you take your pub-xxx code and search the major search engines such as Yahoo and MSN
    you will see the code properly displayed in their search results
    just try a larger site such as DP forum adsense code ...

    hence it is a pub code and all world can find it if needed.

    Google shows hackers the cgi-bin paths to find sites with vulnerable SW, in exchange other SE show the Google adsense code ...
    the game hence is 1:1
     
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    Does anyone understand this?
     
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    its about publishing adsense pub code
    OTHER SE show the Google adsense pub code in search results - which in turn may or not cause a problem to the sites whose code is shown.

    OTHER SE care null about G adsense privacy or secrecy

    Google also cares NULL about site owners security - Google shows URLs into cgi-bin even if robots.txt excludes googlebot from such.

    hence no one cares about security of others

    so why should you care or worry about pub- code being public or not if SE show the code of your site anyway.
     
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    No search engine indexes content between <script> tags. I searched for a few IDs on Google, Yahoo and MSN and all I found was pages with the ID in clear text.
     
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    You both have no idea what you are talking about...
    @hans-
    1) pub-id isnt anything private or secure. it is called pub-id i.e. public ID
    2) No SE indexes text between <script>....</script> tags. so they wont index pub id from your source code
    3) Can you give us an exmple where any search engine is disobeying the robots.txt instruction or is it just your blaber like the other things..


    @Yellowberry.org -
    Since when Adsense required you to put any site, on that you are going to use adsense, in your Admin area or anywhere for that matter??
    Last I checked it doesnt require you to put your site anywhere in order to put adsense on it and make money..
     
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    1. agree - it never was a problem for me for for another poster to have the pub-nr published

    2. the pub nr still shows up in some SE results
    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=pu...=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&fr=moz2
    http://search.msn.com.ph/results.as...&sourceid=Mozilla-search&geovar=56&FORM=REDIR
    http://www.ask.com/web?q=pub-5676236325709660

    the ABOVE pub code is DP code form the banner i saw at the time of THIS posting

    3. YES i have evidence that a successful G search of a script was leading into MY and other site owners cgi-bin and was the initial 1st step of hackers who hacked our site - that was a repeated successful hacker intrusion into many sites having a particular SW installed - and occurred to several sites between fall 2005 and early 2006.

    examples:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=cgi-...&num=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&filter=0
    http://www.google.com/search?num=10...cgi-bin+site:www.digitalpoint.com&btnG=Search
     
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    Dude simply tell me one thing..
    Do you have any Idea of differences between SEs indexing 'Page Text' and indexing Source code.

    Your all examples include pub-id and/or CGI bin path as a part of a page text...

    Geez you dont know anything about how robots.txt works, do you??
    but yes you know how to blame google for just anything...LOL
     
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    Thanks for saving me the hassle of explaining that to him again. :D
     
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