Directory submissions not working to well anymore

An addition.

Even if you are in the right category, half formed words in the title or anchor text wont do you any good. The title is restricted to about 50 characters in a lot of directories. An automated submission wont be able to check these things apart from spellings. Since the essence of link building is SEO and Google wont be able to make out half formed keywords, the effect of link building will be lost.

 

Can you explain what you mean by this?
Thanks

 

The IP address (internet protocol) is the string of numbers for the server that actually has the files for the website. IP is how websites actually find each other.
If two websites are hosted at the same IP, that means they're actually sitting on the same physical hard drive somewhere. I have a hosting account that lets me put up several websites, each with a different domain name (whatever.com, shoppingsite.net, myname.com, etc.). But even though I own these domain names, they're all sitting on the same hard drive, at the same IP address.
The search engines do look at IP for various regions. For example, part of the IP will tell you what country the server is located in.
So anyway, if they're all at the same IP, they're all owned by the same person.
I did a google search for "find IP address of domain" and got this:
look up the IP for any domain at http://www.hcidata.co.uk/host2ip.htm. It will also tell you the IP of the computer you are using right now!

 

I think carboncat has explained that well. Let me just say one more thing. Success depends a lot on the amount of trust you can gain from Google. I have been promoting PR7 sites. For a starter site at PR 0 it might not happen that quick. And there are many other factors which contribute to your success. Remember to consult a SEO professional always. Cheers !

 

It depends on what directories they submit to.

 

Submit your website to quality directories, check PR of directory. and also check PR of subcategory Page, where you will submit your website.

 

My opinion is : people who say that directory submissions are worthed are owners of directory.

The bluemouse2( I don't have anything with him - Is only for example - a niche form directory owners) said "Keep submitting to directories and don't believe all that you hear." is only protect his business.

"Submitting to a directory is a long term deal" , until the owner of directory don't get enough money from the directory and close the directory.This is simple you don't work in loss.

The advantage of submitting to directories is minor, paid or not paid because the directory page power(pr) is share to all the link on the page.Most of the directories owners(not all of them) use the same ip for many directories or even the same basic database.

Some time ago the directories have power but now because are too many search engine sees most of them as link farming and unnatural linking, unnatural seo.

I submit to only free directories(with PR and indexed) because if I loose, I loose only some time not money.Most of my free time I try to build web
technologies and aplication to offer free , and if I do a good job I will be mentioned in some social networks and I will get viral marking.

Maybe for many of you this is a full-time job and have much more experience but for me is only a hooby in free time because I don't live from a web site or a web application.

The conclusion is that the owner of directories want to make money from advertising or paid listing, and if they don't they close the directory and is normal, so they say "submit to directory" to protect their business.
I will submit to a paid directory if have quality.Quality for me means that a directory give me not only links but visitors.(people trust the directory).
If they give me only links for money is a a page with many links,like link farming.

 

I think everyone should steer away from directories. They havent been to productive.

 

Well frankly I am surprised at your pessimism when reputed sites are going for it. Anyway to each his own !

 

This is completely unrelated to the topic. Somebody asked me how I made my sig so big. It is no big deal and certainly not rocket science ! Go to Edit signature under Quick links and change the font size. That is it !

 

I don't agree with this. based on my own experience, if you only use directory submission, it may not bring you much traffic directly, but it does help you get higher PR and better rank in SE.

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How many of them(people that say this) are owners of directories?
The problem is we have to many directories and in a poor condition.
If a owner dont have 10 one of them or even 100 directories and maybe 2,3 we will have better directories with a high PR.
A few years ago if I submited to 10-20 directories my site will get some value but now 80-200(paid not free) are not much valuable.

The internet is filled with amateur operated directories. They have no idea and no experience in operating directories and fill the search engines with what basically constitutes garbage. My biggest kick is the ones promoting themselves as SEO friendly. Search engine optimization friendly, what to heck are they talking about. A directory with static links rather then dynamic maybe.

There is a considerable amount of work that goes into optimizing a directory. Each topic must be optimized for relevant target marketing for the submitter’s website. This constitutes extensive monitoring of the search engine results to insure the individual topic is performing well in the search engines results. Any decent directory can be an effective target marketing tool for the submitter if managed and operated by professionals. Probably the hardest art is getting all of the topics into the search engine results. The primary requirement for this is content.

I see countless directories launched with less then 100 sites submitted and a topic structure of under 200 topics. The over generalized directory is very common, and will offer on average ten links per topic page. In popular topics like website designers for example, they will if with any popularity end up with a topic that is 20 pages deep in a very short time. Search engines rarely go past the third topic level and the submitter’s website will never receive even a search engine link let alone any traffic from the website itself.

Most of the amateur operated directory marketing never goes past webmaster forums. It takes many thousands of dollars per month to generate traffic and do justice for the webmasters who have entrusted you with marketing their website. It’s an obligation that professional directory operators take seriously and do their very best at. It’s impossible to make everybody happy or to even get every submission into the search engines. By far the professional and experienced directory operator can do it best.

Google is working to encourage webmasters to increase the quality of their directories. They are doing this by devaluing ranking weight passed by directories that practice low editorial digression, keyword stuffing, give/sell non-relevant site-wide links and other spammy practices.

Directories have a high outbound link to content text ratio therefore their out bound link signature is looked at closer. Google looks at the quality of the inbound links and the quality of the sites that out abound links are given to. As quality sites don’t often link to low quality sites, directories that don’t use editorial digression and link to spammy sites will transfer low trust weight even if they have obtained high trust links.

After the top 20 general directories, directories are just link-buys — we all know that just most people don’t say it.

For most of the directory owners benefits is money and the disadvantages is when Matt Cutts hits your directory and the money flow dries up. For people that are into it for more than just money it is creating a product that shines. Categories that have better information than Google can cough up in the SERPs and a site that people visit and find high quality information.

Link-sell directories will become useless over time as webmasters get educated and the Matt Cutts coders get smarter. I think that we are going to see more niche portal directories that get traffic based on content, provide cutting edge information, and rank high in their niche.

For the moment my opinion is to submit to free directories with PR, because you dont loose money, only some time.

 

An interesting thread. I have 2 views:

1. From a search engine's view directories help to categorise websites, but the directory needs to be trusted by them. So IMO only quality directories are worth submitting to.

2. There is a limiting return from directories. Otherwise webmasters could easily buy top rankings (ok, I know many will say they can anyway), but from a search engine's persepctive they don't want this, so it makes sense to limit the benefit of directories.

Overall my view is submit to directories, but accept that they have a limited effect on your rankings. If its your main or only strategy you will fail to get top positions.

 

Well said gordano. You are right. You need to get links from other sources as well.

There is one thing people need to understand here. Google is trying to replicate human behaviour in ranking a website.

Google will rank a website well for quite the same reasons as a human being would who thinks a particular site or topic is of importance or of high quality. Whatever reasoning makes a human being think that a site or topic is of importance is the same reasoning that will be used by Google to judge you.

I have posted my take on search engine optimization at my thread. Take a look..

 

I think the amount of directories out there gets exagerated, its seems like theres millions because everyone on DP has one, everyone isnt on DP though.