Directory submissions not working to well anymore

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Search-Placement, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. SEOLinker

    SEOLinker Banned

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    #21
    There are probably 10k+ general dirs, some free, some paid, some seo-freindly, some not, some don't even work. So it's something like 1000 maybe good of all that 10k, but it takes hell a lot of time to sort them all and to find that great 1000, but the one who have such database may help. It's all depends on submitter and his database.
     
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  2. bluemouse2

    bluemouse2 Well-Known Member

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    #22
    I would say the problem is another. Being directories owner I know this. Many submissions are crap and makes the approval very difficult. From all received submissions only around 20-25% worth approval. That's why i prefer paid directories: even for symbolic price at least I receive good listings as directory owner. So before complaining take these factors into consideration. You will probably never get listed on some free directories due to the spammy listings and high links volume.
     
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  3. Jasonb

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    #23
    To get backlinks and to get indexed fast, i would suggest buying forum signatures. There better than directorys.
     
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  4. NikkiBlue

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    #24
    You are so on point! The good submissions get buried under the 1000's of spam links. Its almost a waste of time submitting to the older free general directories.
     
    NikkiBlue, Mar 25, 2007 IP
  5. bluemouse2

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    #25
    Yes, and it's a real headache to approve the good listings from tons of spams.
     
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  6. WunschShrek

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    #26
    you can submit to all directories, it won't hurt ya. I do have sites with rankings on minor terms with just directory links and maybe 10 related links.
     
    WunschShrek, Mar 25, 2007 IP
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    #27
    Directory Submission is very useful.wait and watch result, all directories are not aprove your link within few days it need some time so, forbear, you will surely get benifits of Directory Submission.
     
    kenoornet, Mar 25, 2007 IP
  8. allout

    allout Prominent Member

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    #28
    I have been adding to every free directory I could find for a few weeks and have not seen any backlink results. I even started my own niche directory. I will keep trying but I am seeing much more results from forums.
     
    allout, Mar 26, 2007 IP
  9. Rapesco

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    #29
    Directories do still work. I think most people are talking about submitting to wankey free directories that have 0 or low PR and will never get any and are just crap and will not pass any PR on. I assume people submitting to 60+ directories are submitting the above mentioned crap directories. Only submit to quality directories that give quality links that have a decent PR on the page you want to submit to and get cached on a regular basis.
     
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  10. bluemouse2

    bluemouse2 Well-Known Member

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    #30
    We are talking here from two perspectives: the one of the directory owner and the one of the site owner. Please try to make a balance.
     
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  11. zokiii

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    #31
    Free directories are crap.

    Today they look like link farms with no authority at all.
    Then this is link with no value.
    Just spammy BL's from other free directories.
     
    zokiii, Mar 26, 2007 IP
  12. NikkiBlue

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    #32
    Wow! Do you have a list of free directories you can share that meets all of those requirements?

    By the time I confirm that a directory meets all of those requirements, I could have submitted 3-4 links.

    On the other side (as a directory owner), I'm amazed at how many people still do not know how to submit a link. All they know is keywords, keywords, keywords, which looks
    spammy,spammy,spammy,;)
     
    NikkiBlue, Mar 27, 2007 IP
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    #33
    Free directories mostly a waste of time in my opinion. Best submitting to paid ones.
     
    Rapesco, Mar 27, 2007 IP
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    #34
    you won't see backlink results that quickly. If you haven't seen any backlinks in 2-3 months, then you know it's not paying off.
     
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    #35
    one thing I do is check to see if the page I am submitting to is already cached by google/yahoo. If it is, then at least it's being crawled, and it's not worthless.
     
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    #36
    Submitting in directories is still useful if you choose wisely. If not in ranking, then perhaps in a bit traffic or even new customers.
    But I would never pay to get a link. Also I never accept to put backlinks on my page.

    I´m also a bit confused about rankings... I just got a few google backlinks and last month they even descreased a bit.. but my PR was going from 3 to 4 anyway.
     
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    #37
    Agreeeed 100%. I have done some through a guy and gotten TONES of emails regarding received submissions. If they decided to accept that is the directories perogative...
     
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    #38
    There are some free and good ones. Just you have to know which one.

    Most of submission is a waste of time I submit only to the best ones.
     
    grg, Mar 27, 2007 IP
  19. John27

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    #39
    I think you have to be prepared to do more work first now to get better results. It is no longer a good idea to blast the same article to 500 directories. Google for example will give credit to original content and the other search engines are getting tougher.
    It is better to write various versions of articles to get more links back to your sites.
     
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  20. t k

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    #40
    Quality. That is the right word. If your site's SEO has been taken care of well and you have been in the business for quite sometime there is no reason why you should not rank well if you have backlinks from high PR directories.

    I have personally seen success with being listed at directories for my clients pages ( moved to the top 10 of Google page results and PR from 0 to 6 ) but again there are so many other factors that go along with directory submissions like the amount of competition that you have on the net, your content, age of the directory, the amount of trust Google has in the particular directory etc. etc. that it might not happen to your site.

    As somebody said the backlinks certainly did not show up on Google but our page certainly moved to the top 10.

    Wherever you get the links from , it is important they be 'followed' by Google. A 'no follow' link does not fetch you a gain in SERPs. There are some directories where your link is hosted on a ' no follow basis '. ( Blogspot gives you ' no follow ' links as far as I know)

    There are others where instead of giving you a direct link you are given a redirect. Redirects dont serve your purpose.

    And some give you jump links which again aren't useful.

    There are directories where you are listed somewhere on the 50th page ! That might not be useful unless it is easily reachable from the homepage or your category.

    It is important to be listed in the right category. If not you are simply sending the wrong signals.

    Some directories allow you to submit to them and list you on a entirely new directory that they want links for ! Watch out for them.

    Most importantly you should not be listed on directories residing on the same IP address.

    Stay clear of link farms. And submit to directories having a PR 3 and above.

    So the long and short of it is,how sure are you that these things have been looked into when you are giving it out to a submission service ? Go for somebody reliable in the business.

    Stay clean , get professional SEO help, offer valuable updated content to your visitors, your site should take off . There is what is known as the Google sandbox and aging delay. So it takes sometime.

    But on the flip side do you think Hotmail resorted to SEO when it was first introduced? They got thousands of users in two days !

    Content is the keyword.

    And Google wants the links to be natural. So don't be paranoid about it. There is some excellent advice at http://www.seobook.com/archives/001792.shtml Check it out.
     
    t k, Mar 28, 2007 IP
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