Directory submissions...at what point is it overkill?

I have a list made up of 450 directories yesterday with various pageranks and before i am going to submit to them i want to ask the following questions.

Would submitting to all of these directories be the best thing to do or would it be overkill?

Should i only filter out the ones with high pagerank? and what is the minimum pagerank to work with?

Thanks in advance guys.

 

i originally submitted to about 100/200 directories to get backlinks rolling and now i only submit to directories that look like they have potential to send me visiters.

 

So in your oppinion it wouldn't hurt to do a massive run on those directories?

Am also interested in other people's views on this.

 

If you have the time, my advice is to submit to as many as possible. If you can better use the time doing something else, use one of the directory submission services.

 

The more the marrier.

 

Make sure you throttle the submissions. The search engines like to see natural link building. Seeing your link with the same test and description in 300 directories in one day will not be viewed as natural.

 

You can never do too many. It is just hard to gauge what the payoff will be. If you can't get your keywords in the anchortext, it is probably a waste of time.

 

Hmm. yes you're right about that.

I gues i'll submit to al of them within a 4 month time period, would this be a better approach.

 

I haven't submitted to too many directories, but don't the directory people hand approve each listing often times? That would give you a natural throttle of sorts, figuring for varying approval times...


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Derek

 

Good point there i guess.

 

If its a new site you don't want to build loads of links too quickly as it can trip filters and lead to the sites rankings being lowered.

Having said that directories are not likely to lead to a huge influx of similar links so you should be OK going for all of them.

 

In a way, but this is out of your control. Best not to leave it to chance. Limiting your daily submits and varying among mutlple anchor values, descriptions and landing pages will help greatly in getting this linking strategy past google.

 

Thanks guys best to be on the safe side and to take it a little slower as i had in mind.

 

Isn't that how Google likes it?

Don't you think Google has significant algorithms and lists to know what IBLs are coming from simple directories? I don't think we're getting anything 'past google'...


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Derek

 

I would just do them all at once as well. To approve your submission directories will need a time range of a few days to never anyways, so there's (in my oppinion) no danger Google might pick this up as unnatural link building and no need to take more time for the submissions than needed.

 

Good idea, less competition in the SERP's for us then

Here is a little truck to play with in the sandbox...

 

Are you implying that you're successful in eluding the sandbox using this method?


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Derek

 

I would not worry about building the links too fast. I have seen very little evidence of sites being penalized for this. This is something that lots of people talk about, but when it comes to proving it, I don't usually see much evidence.

I have asked this question before, and I will ask it again: does anyone have good evidence of google penalizing a site that built links too fast? If so, I would like to see it. (I am genuinely interested here, not trying to be snide)

There are many sites that get thousands of links overnight from things such as press releases and articles and they do not get penalized.

 

My guess those kind of backlinks holds another type of valure compared to directory links and would therefor not hurt a site.

Just a guess

 

I do believe it's possible to get penalized for generating too many unrelated links too fast-- or even just too many unrelated links, period. Again, I cannot back it up. I simply don't believe that <450 links in the time it takes to submit to the directories, get them to approve it, and get Google to crawl and index those changes(I'd estimate 1-4 weeks at best), would be enough to trip the filter, but that's just my opinion...

I see massive links attained-- hundreds and thousands in ONE DAY, to be more likely to trip it-- other than, the press release/blogging thing that Google seems to love... I think Google has an algorithm that negates the filter of getting too many links too fast in this case...


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Derek