If you read Jims linkbuilding guideline He mention that links should only come from the few trusted directories such as Yahoo and DMOZ and submitting to every directory on the planet may not gain you but rather hurt your rankings.. So mayby, we should stop submitting..
No Offence, but do you know jim himself owns many directories and also iam sure he does submit his links to all these directories as i hope this is his own directory submission services link addurl.nu
I always see a decent boost to search engine rankings of older existing sites when submitting to significant amounts of directories. There is an effect even if you have to submit to quite a few to notice it.
Some of my new sites are ranking top#10 and i would thanks this to the directory owners who listed my sites. I just start a site wait for it to get indexed, then start directory submissions and you are easily competiting with the other TOP10 sites though my range of competition is not that high, but i can say it surely helps, till the date you are not in link farms.
Agreed, I Have even few proof that site's are gaining more traffic by submitting directories. I Don't think Backlinks from directories will hurt your ranking
Actually as anything in "Life" these days and as things each day in "Life" change... I see this all as a "Game of Chance"... You may get Lucky you may not... The rules change all the time, just depends on who's words you read...
When using directories its best to submit to few at time instead of doing a couple of hundred - doing a directory bomb will raise flags. I totally disagree with his comments on this as we can’t control our incoming links and the Search Engines know that. If this was the case then everyone would be trying to bring down the top 10 in the serps and it would be a free for all. I would say his comments should have been on outgoing and not incoming and of course as I said it should me a more slow process and not a bombardment BUT we do still need to be careful on who we place our links with.
My basic service just involves site optimisation and one directory submission per working day. I get some very good results out of it.
Lol my directory by submissions to webdirectorys (600 i think) is doing very well . So i totaly disagree .
I have to say disagree, I dont do mass submissions, in fact I just login here everyday, check the new directorys advertised in the solicitations thread, post about 8 or 9 of my sites to them, and then check other interstesing posts. I hav enoticed a reasonable increase in positions.
regarding directory submissions: I am doing something most webmasters (besides DP members) don't do. So i guess i gain a small advantage.
You're not disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with Jim, the guy that nearly won the V7Ndotcom seocontest.
Let me clarify this as I suspect what I wrote was misunderstood here. The section quoted is about: And I write: I speak about the majority of the backlinks. If you already have 1K links there should not be any problems in getting 200 links from directories. But if you have a new site and all your links is coming from directories I don't think that is a good idea. It would be too easy for Google to see the patter. Did you guys know that before I wrote this I saw a huge number of directories being smashed by Google and the new BigDaddy structure. I speak about directory pages going supplemental and deindexed. I can of course be wrong here, but this is what I believe.
I'd probably agree with that. The majority of backlinks should be preferable one way from on-topic 'real' sites. Without those you'll find it hard to rank at all for most competitive phrases.
I think all link building needs to be done in relationship to how old the site is and how many backlinks it already has. Using a slow, but steady growth will work best for most sites. It should not matter if you use directory links or links from other non-relevant sites as long as the link building is done in moderation. Christoph
Here's a question: how many directories do search engines successfully recognise as such? I've seen a lot of blogs that have a similar ratio of outbound links to regular text, for instance. And not every directory has "directory" in the domain name, for instance. Obviously this is a theoretical question, nobody knows but the tight-lipped algo writers. But Jim's theory depends on SE's devoting processing power to deciding what type of site a link is coming from, possibly by looking for the evidence that a popular script has been used, and then devaluing the links accordingly. Is there any evidence? They aren't even devaluing the pages of subdomains yet, to treat them as though they are part of the same site.
Before I submit to a directory I'll make sure that its fully indexed and not just the main index page - something that Jim mentioned in the article - run the command on google site:directorydomain.com and you can usually see if Google likes the site or not. I also take a quick look on the type of sites that are listed in the same directory making sure there is no spammy sites listed.
Acceptance into Yahoo, Dmoz is always a plus, the others are okay too, but submitting to any and every directory may not be wise, many come and go, get penalized etc.