Directory Owners - You must read this - Why directories are being penalised in Google

Thanks for the useful advice. Please don't get discouraged by all the negatively.

 

Yes, I am ! They are not written they are generated, it takes a lot of time for reasearch and structure. It takes 30 hours work per 1000 directories to write the descriptions and submit, I know people are used to dirt cheap directory submissions but you get what you pay for - most just fill in a form on their software and click submit then wait 10 minutes. The result from their service is repeat content links that are worthless.

see here for example of descriptions

http://www.londonseoconsultants.co.uk/unique_description_generation.htm

 

Thats definately auto generated, where can i get one?

Maybe consider Unique Description Writing Service not being quite as it says then.

For the price your charging nearly everyone can buy or get someone probably to code a wee tool that will generate the descriptions differently.

On DP it gets harder to trick people, as nearly everyone here as seen no end of approaches in threads to get a bit of business.

Your mistake was starting an attention grabbing thread and claiming to have an answer that has evaded even professionals online.

 

i try to have a few different descriptions for my sites, vary the wording, but it's true that there's only so many ways that you can skin a cat.

 

Maybe I'm missing something here. So help me out, friends, if I'm doing something wrong, as follows:

• I'm a regular submitter to directories, lots of them.
• Every page of my nearly 200 personally written pages has its own unique description.
• But for any individual page (for example, the home page), when I submit that page to a directory I always use the same meta description.
• Why would that be wrong (if it is wrong)? If the meta description unique to each page is well written and descriptive, why would a webmaster have to, or want to, change it when submitting to many directories?

 

DO IT THEN !!! Its not as easy as it seems, each one has to read perfectly

Trick people ?? Are you accusing me of trying to trick people ? hmm now lets see..whos the plum with the gambling affiliate links - moral decline of society just to line your pockets - worse than drug dealing

 

I don’t think it matters much what you do. As soon as a directory has the ability to influence page rank and Google finds it the inner page ranking is going to be removed. I personally think it’s a hand job not a crawler function that does it, but that’s just my opinion.
It’s the future for directories so you’re going to have to build and sell directory services for something other than selling links.

 

Dont need to, i personally feel the Title in a submission is more important.

Gambling affiliate links? what?

Not accusing you, you set yourself up with the thread title, it simply cant be taken seriously.

If i get a subscribed email from google then i take note and read it properly.

If you start a thread claiming to know what causes penalisation for directories your mostly going to be lauged at (quietly)

 

The bottom line is submit only to higq quality human-adited directories. It is easy to check out the latest submissions and see if they are the types of sites you would want yours associated with.

 

actually a lot of directories have had the PR values removed totally
(for a seo consultant you should know this from about a year and a half ago)
can you prove that unique descriptions will stop you losing PR on a directory or getting penalised?
i know you cant because I already have seen directories with 100% unique written descriptions which have lost PR
writing unique descriptions for a directory is the way to go and it should be rewarded by google but I see a lot of cases where it isnt so please dont promote it like the answer to all directory problems because it isnt

oh yea and as for the descriptions you are offering..
they are just spun descriptions...pay an editor and do it right..again if you were trying to offer a worthwhile service this is what you would be doing and not trying to cut corners.

 

Dear LondonSEOConsultants,

Perhaps if you had come to this section of DP and offered the suggestion or requested that directory owners rewrite listing descriptions you would have seen a more favorable response. I'm always open to suggestions from SEO experts on how to make my sites better but all you have done here is make a pathetic attempt to garner business.

Let me see if I have this straight. You offer directory submission services. You use some automated tool to rewrite the listing descriptions. And then you hope directory owners will fix the auto-generated mess for you?

Gee, dude, where do I sign up?

Looks like you need to hire a marketing consultant to teach you that you won't get far in business if you alienate your providers. That's the real rub here isn't it? You need directory owners to accept your submissions, yet, you have just given us every reason not to do business with you.

 

What do I say at the beginning of the thread..

"If you own a directory then you should go through all your links and if any of them use a description that can be found somewhere else on the net you have to remove their listing or rewrite it to make it unique - or email the link owner and ask them to provide a unique description - this will ensure your site contains only unique content."

 

YES, I can prove it...go and find a good directory that is human edited and rewrites descriptions or does not approve non unique descriptions and you will see for yourself.

In the case where those directories that have unique content but have still been penalised then thats obviously because of their external links, they link to anyone, in most cases anyone who pays, they have no quality control.

I am trying to offer a worthwhile service, to write each description manually would take weeks, to submit to each directory 100% manually would take weeks. Would anybody even pay the minimum wages hourly rate for such a service ...no...especially when they are used to the dirt cheap directory submissions. Corners need to be cut,.. but I do not cut too many to the point that it jeapordises the quality of the link or the chance of acceptance, on the contrary, my submission service improves this greatly.

 

I saw what you said in the beginning of the thread.

Perhaps you should review it again and look at it from our perspective. Some person, who is calling themselves an SEO Consultant, who has not previously participated in the Directory forum and who is posting in every thread they can find about unique descriptions assumed that directory owners were too dense to figure out that a quality directory requires unique descriptions.

You wrote a sensational subject for this thread. You got our attention. It backfired on you. Time to move on and try to regroup.

Next time think about what you are saying and who you are saying it to. A submission service that provides unique descriptions is something that would have been greatly supported by directory owners. Instead of introducing yourself and your service in a positive way, you have alienated the very people who could have been your biggest supporters.

 

You may be working hard but I would not accept your submissions because they are spam/keyword stuffed. Any description with a keyword repeated more than 2 times gets dumped.

Let me clarify. If a site is something I consider a 'cut above' I will rewrite. The rest go in the bit bucket. My current approval rate is around 20% and that is with a ever growing ip ban list..

 

Do anyone tell me honestly that Google is penalizing directories who accepting non-unique contents? Does Google is crawling the description of a submitted sites in our directories and are they giving or comparing with the submitted site's own page contents and it's given description in our directories? Does Google really look for unique contents on directories? Is it's possible for us to maintain unique contents on directories whether we write or posted by submitter? Can anyone tell me the motto of website directories? Do we are started web directories to provide unique contents or categorized websites list/url?

Google is now dancing with their own PR games. We know that reading a webpage by robot and reading by human is too different thinks and we believe at our own eye rather than web robot. Backlink is just a way to make perfect image of a webpage and it's importance. If you and mine both have same category website and if I place your link at my site and if Google got your link at my page.....Google will definitely give you a credit. Because Google believes that when I placed you link at my site, that means I saw your site and read your contents and I considered your site as a important (may be more than mine). So Google is believing at human study rather than their own crawler at least for PR matter. No webmaster will place my link at their site whether I pay for it or just sends listing request emails to the site owner. Till this one, Google is calculating their algorithm very well. But the problem has come when Directories are getting famous and they also know the almost 99.99% directories main motto is to sale links bcoz all are known that if our sites get accept and approve by a directory and appear on the page, we'll get some PR. Except of directories, Google can easily calculate whether to give a credit to out going links by deducting from that site by comparing their site categories. If a game site places a link of a shopping related site, definitely the shopping site will not get any credit from the game site. Outgoing links may not be same categories sites. But the page where the link has been placed should be unique category. But Google is facing problem with directories. Because directory can't be compare whether the directory is internet category or game category or shopping category etc. (not for niche directories). So Google is almost bound to give credit to all the outgoing links from a directory. We place our links to appropriate directory' category and all the contents, sites, meta, title etc. of that category page always being same and unique page with out site. If my site is shopping related than I'll definitely place my site at shopping category and where already lots of shopping sites are included and so Google sees that page as a shopping related page and so they're giving PR to outgoing links from that page. So it's just become impossible to tie the directories with Google webmaster policies or don't have any way to ban the directories. Directories can't be consider as a link exchange sites or with any other Google policies except duplicate contents. So, as a OP has told that Google is penalizing directories how have duplicate contents. And also there've no any other way to stop directories. I actually don't know that whether Google penalizing directories for duplicate contents or not. But I sure than if Google do such, almost 99% directories will get ban from Google and which will be big issue with Google. May be we're claiming our directories as human edit but is really we're editing title and description of a site at our own style and do we know that our written contents will be unique....I think we can't. Copyscape.com is nothing rather than a crappy comparison. I found that copyscape compare the words like is, was, that etc. We don't have any right solution to bring notice to us that our written contents are unique. We're just review the written title and description of a site whether the title and description is related to that site or not. If not....we delete that submission and that's all and we're saying that human edit. Where have the human edit? So it's clear that more than 99% of directories are doing same as I told and so our directories have full with duplicate contents. But still our directories are running and which is indicating that Google is not banning directories for duplicate contents. So Google is getting headache to analyzing directories and it's reality.

 

I agree with discover. Many directories are full of duplicate descriptions and were not penalised. I think it may be one factor of many, but not necessary the main factor, i mean i think this factor plus other several factors are the reasons of a penalty.

 

Hi,

Thanks for the valuable information.

Regards,
Srinivas.

 

I think is true but is hard to check all site if use duplicate description