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diff Bootstrap and HTML and Dreamweaver

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by webguy2015, Dec 12, 2014.

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    what is difference between bootstrap and html and dreamweaver and php and css.

    I was under impression all website use html language tobuild website but some people say they build using bootstrap or dreamweaver or php or javascript or css
     
    webguy2015, Dec 12, 2014 IP
  2. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    Well first, you're right, ALL websites are built with HTML. PERIOD. Done properly HTML should say what things ARE (paragraphs, headings, lists), with CSS saying what things LOOK LIKE. (color, width, alignment). If you choose your HTML based on appearance, you're doing it ALL WRONG.

    Dreamweaver is an editor for working with the HTML and CSS -- kind of. It has a thing called a "preview pane" that you can use as a WYSIWYG editor, however doing so pisses out an inaccessible train wreck of a website. Combined with it's decade out of date practices, decade out of date templates, decade out of date scripting, ridiculous price, code bloat and train wreck if vomits up and has the giant pair of brass to call HTML and CSS, I cannot fathom how anyone is DUMB ENOUGH to use it.

    But really, it's just an editor... to edit HTML and CSS.

    Bootstrap (or as I call it, bootcrap) is a HTML and CSS framework for shitting out non-semantic bloated HTML and CSS in the name of making it "easier"... which it doesn't do at ALL if you have even the slightest clue how HTML and CSS works. Much like other "CSS shortcut" idiocy like LESS, SASS or concepts like OOCSS, developers are dumber for this type of crap even existing... which is why when it comes to bootcrap, my advice is to go find a stick to scrape it off with.

    PHP is a server-side language used to generate HTML. As such you should have a proper command of how to build a HTML and CSS based website before you EVER delve into PHP; of course the LACK of such understanding on the part of many PHP developers is why fat, bloated, slow idiotic crap is the norm amongst many off the shelf solutions like Turdpress, Joomla or forum softwares like Xenforo or vBull.

    But really all PHP (or any other server side language like Perl or ASP) is for is gluing together bits of HTML in different ways. The best example of which being turning information from database engines into markup, and "gluing" it into a page template. It's glue. You glue the database to the markup.

    Which of course is where another laugh comes into play, templating. PHP is a template system unto itself, which is why halfwit mouth-breathing idiots seem to think you need to run ANOTHER templating system (like SMARTY) on top of it. Herpafreakingderp.

    In any case though, other than CSS ALL those other things you mentioned are there to spit out HTML; so if you don't know HTML you're not going to get very far in any of the rest of them. HTML is to say what things are so as to establish document structure, and what things like screen readers and search engines see. CSS is simply how you say what things should look/sound like for all the different possible targets like screen, print, aural -- as well as sub-targets within those using "media queries" to make the CSS layouts "responsive".

    Sadly, most people still just vomit up presentational markup or like dumbasses crap out their CSS in the markup, for zero real world improvement in site building, zero real world leveraging of caching models, and in general just sleazing things out any old way. Just take a look at the bekaptah nonsense at the template whorehouses like themeForest or TemplateMonster, or do a view-source on your average turdpress template for proof enough of that.
     
    deathshadow, Dec 12, 2014 IP
  3. JoshMillerEnterprises

    JoshMillerEnterprises Greenhorn

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    HTML, is Hyper-Text Markup Language, the language the browser reads to present what you see on the screen.
    CSS, is a Cascading Style-Sheets, basically the language which tells the browser how to style what is being presented on the screen.
    Bootstrap is CSS script that has pre-made styles for people to use so they don't have to style each element themselves.
    PHP, is Hypertext PreProcessing, a programming language that is used to output html without making duplicates, generally, but can do far more.
    Dreamweaver is a software application that allows you to design websites without having to code too much.
     
    JoshMillerEnterprises, Dec 14, 2014 IP