Did jewish bankers plot the financial melt down?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Seqqa, Jul 12, 2011.

  1. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,695
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    115
    #21
    Sorry I didn't realize that Allah was a man or considered a potential fool. But carry on...
     
    Seqqa, Jul 13, 2011 IP
  2. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    61
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #22
    I don't disagree with you, you just have to be careful 'cause they're a very defensive group - ADL etc..

    @Israel, wise words. I agree with you.
     
    BRUm, Jul 13, 2011 IP
  3. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,695
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    115
    #23
    Understandable but so is every religious group including the Muslims and Christians. I wasn't trying to offend anyone and in fact I've been thinking of studying the Torah out of interest. Just interested in getting the P&R's opinion on a topic that seems to be gripping the likes of YouTube.
     
    Seqqa, Jul 13, 2011 IP
  4. Digitalisextremis

    Digitalisextremis Peon

    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #24
    You didn't answer my question about how following a particular religion can cause you to be good at making money? If that's not true then why mention Jews in the first place and if you have facts let's see them.

    I want to see your stats, what percentage of the richest people follow Judaism, what percentage of those are in positions of power poilitically or in financial instituations etc etc, you get my drift. I don't think you can provide those stats and your OP was based on heresay, paranoia and bigotry whether yours or whether you're just peddling it second hand.

    Oh, it would be helpful if you proposed a theory on why the richest most powerful people would cause the system they dominate to go into meltdown. How would that help them?
     
    Digitalisextremis, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  5. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,695
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    115
    #25
    Are you three years old and need people to spoon feed you information like you do with food? If you care so much go and find the information yourself, I know I'm right but I don't have the time nor the desire to just feed you information all day. You've failed to answer mine, so based on that incompetence to follow simple instructions alone I'll just presume you're incapable of understanding basic information anyway.

    I'm now bored of arguing with a nobody so I'm unsubscribing from this thread.
     
    Seqqa, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  6. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    61
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #26
    Don't give up Seqqa. What more would you like to debate?

    That's a loaded question. Are you unaware that Judaism as a religion and as an ethnic group is widely accepted by Jews? Ashkenazi Jews originate from a very isolated and self-contained region in Germany. Over the years the flow of people in and out was very rare and thus characteristics that would be commonly shared throughout this exclusive community would appear - this is a natural process when groups of animals and humans spend many generations within the same area and which isn't often introduced to outside genes. We see this on a slower and more subtle scale when comparing differing countries.

    For example, people have commented before on my appearance as being "Roman" - I'm not entirely sure what this means but I assume it's because I look North-Western European - as my family name is derived from Anglo-Saxon and Anglo-Norman dialects, and my heritage is completely of the British Isles. My avatar is not me, in case anyone wondered.

    Now, the monetary aspect is not so much a religious attribute, but more the result of culture. There is no denying the fact that success and wealth is often gained by Jews as their heritage constraints are more likely to produce the rewards than most other ethnic groups proportionately. Furthermore, it is a well documented fact that Jewish families are amongst the most well recorded and traceable lineages around and because they're likely to keep wealth within the family for subsequent generations this is bound to accumulate.

    Take a look at this quote, taken from a very interesting article written by a self-proclaimed Jew:

    You can read more here.

    This is not proof all Jews are wealthy or influential, of course, in fact the vast majority of Sephardic Jews, who live in the East, are living in poverty. The facts regarding European Jews, however, remain.

    Does this help your question?
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2011
    BRUm, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  7. Digitalisextremis

    Digitalisextremis Peon

    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #27
    Yeah, that's what I thought, you have no 'facts', no statistics, in fact you have nothing but a second hand conspircay theory which you haven't really thought through or bothered to substantiate before starting this thread. It's you that's wasting our time in fact as well as being downright offensive in your manner of posting and subject matter.

    Brum, thanks for the considered response, it's an interesting theory and not unreasonable but I'm not sure how it supports the idea that 'jewish bankers caused the global meltdown' and that 'jews are good at making money'.... You seem much more intelligent than the OP, perhaps you can take over his position and argue it for him? Which Jewish bankers in particular could have caused and would benefit from causing a global financial meltdown? Why does Jewish even come into this, the implication is that they caused it because they were jewish when surely the incentive would be financial and that could apply to anyone from any culture/religion/race?

    EDIT: the Vanity list, how many of the jews on it are bankers?
     
    Digitalisextremis, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  8. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    61
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #28
    Now that it can be substantiated that Jews as an ethnic group are proportionality one of the most, if not the most, wealthy and influential peoples we can consider their role in the recent economic troubles.

    I hold the belief that derivative speculators, bankers and the elite internationalists caused the world's current economic situation. I've heard renowned economists and Wall Street traders, such as Max Kieser and Bob Chapman, claim to know and have worked with these speculators; insiders, if you will.

    Listening to a Talk Radio programme a while ago, I recall Max Keiser claim that while he stayed in a top-class hotel in Iceland he spoke to a few of these individuals and they relayed how they were preparing to make huge financial gains at the cost of Iceland and its inhabitants' well being. Recently, while in Greece following the political and financial chaos there, he claimed to have spoken to more speculators and specifically the son of a media tycoon (he gave a name but it escapes me at the moment) who informed him of their preparation to gain financially from Greece's instability and potential to default on their loans, ready to snap up municipal businesses like airports.

    There is an unsettling amount of information and knowledge that the public simply do not have access to regarding these issues. John Perkins is another interesting man, whom I've heard speak:

    An "economic hitman", as he explained it, was employed by predatory international organisations, such as the IMF, in order to initially communicate with leaders and influential characters in nations with important natural resources and other appealing sources of capital, and to entrap them with attractive loans. When the foreign diplomats agree to these loans and usually retain the money for their own vested interests instead of their country and its people, the hitman later returns for the interest or return on the loans. Commonly, the case is that those receiving the loans are unable to repay further down the line. If this is the case the shady lenders then "compromise" by allowing the loans to remain unpaid under the agreement that natural resources, that which the hitmen and their employers originally wanted ownership of, are to be extracted and traded by international corporations, ultimately weakening the country further. Perkins also stated that when leaders of these sovereign countries refuse the financial incentives dangled in front of them, "jackals" are then used to assassinate them or destabilise their power.

    Note the bold "... a few wealthy families". It is these families who are largely Jewish that drive the theory of global Jewish domination. The reality is not as simple but obviously holds some truth. Arabs and Russians have a large ownership of oil, for example, however I wouldn't believe this to be a conspiracy of their ethnicity or nationality, rather of their class.

    Considering all of this, it's not my belief that Jews have an exclusive monopoly on this financial terrorism, however it is the case that due to the high proportion of such ethnic groups they are implicitly involved, infer from this what you will. Their competitive and seemingly Darwinist nature, shared by wealthy moguls of other ethnicities, is the cause, in my opinion.

    You can read more of Max Keiser:
    As-predicted-the-greek-government-will-sell-stakes-in-the-country-phone-power-and-gambling-companies-and-airport-to-raise-funds-to-trim-debt/
    Max Keiser: Financial Terrorism, Crashing the Greek Economy for Profit
    Max Keiser names Banksters involved in Greece Coup
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2011
    BRUm, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  9. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,695
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    115
    #29
    Interesting observation. Not only can you not multi-quote a post, but you seem to struggle the English language.

    Quoted from another post.

     
    Seqqa, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  10. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    61
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #30
    Intelligence is irrelevant. Knowledge and what you do with it are important.
     
    BRUm, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  11. laxman363

    laxman363 Active Member

    Messages:
    2,173
    Likes Received:
    81
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    90
    #31
    This guy is a waste of sperm. His command on English is horrible and even if mistakes are corrected his thoughts dont make any sense. I am arguing with him in another thread with dumb posts with no meaning. Here is one.

     
    laxman363, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  12. Digitalisextremis

    Digitalisextremis Peon

    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #32
    You have nothing but insults really do you. You certainly don't have good answers to even the simplest questions about your poorly thought out second hand conspiracy theory. I'm done with you until you say something worth responding to.

    Peace :)
     
    Digitalisextremis, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  13. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    61
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #33
    I suppose the short answer to the thread's title is "yes" with a "but".
     
    BRUm, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  14. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,695
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    115
    #34
    I'm starting to come to the conclusion that's all he's here to do. Buy a few cheap links off the B/S/T section, and then we he's bored piss off people or piss on peoples beliefs in P&R.
     
    Seqqa, Jul 14, 2011 IP
  15. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    61
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #35
    Someone left me negative feedback, or "grey" feedback. Apparently:

    Only a coward leaves unsigned feedback. Typical mental retard. My posts are very balanced, unbaised and non-opinionated. I even made it clear I don't think this is a Jewish only conspiracy. It's a shame people who can't read are allowed to give feedback. Who do I hate? I don't harbour hate for anyone.
     
    BRUm, Jul 15, 2011 IP
  16. Seqqa

    Seqqa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,695
    Likes Received:
    62
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    115
    #36
    The general chat section only gives gray rep, regardless if it's positive or negative. It doesn't affect your over all rep.
     
    Seqqa, Jul 15, 2011 IP
  17. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    61
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    100
    #37
    It doesn't matter, people still have to read it when they click "settings". I think DP should tag usernames after the reputation comment.
     
    BRUm, Jul 15, 2011 IP
  18. Bushranger

    Bushranger Notable Member

    Messages:
    2,841
    Likes Received:
    257
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    200
    #38
    I wouldn't feel the reps were too personal guys, the fact you mention Jews is enough to cop it in here. If you speak for them you get in trouble and if you speak against them the same. I've copped a few for simply joining in a convo but you get over that as your truth is more important than silly reps when it boils down to it IMHO.

    Do you really look at my reps to decide if I'm worthy of an answer?

    And as far as I knew, you can give greens and reds in here but you must need to have a good rep to do that. Usually you go find the user in another thread and then it turns out green, if that's what you wanted to do.

    Yours being grey, BRUm, just means they don't have much rep themselves, as a clue.
     
    Bushranger, Jul 15, 2011 IP
  19. atvking

    atvking Active Member

    Messages:
    749
    Likes Received:
    13
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    58
    #39
    The Jewish and American and other bankers are completely Guilty. In what % is not relevant, they should all be in jail.

    Now not all Jews and Americans are bankers, this has nothing to do with nationality, but this definitely was a "conspiracy" or should I say business strategy and the bankers will get to make trillions at our expense.

    When the world actually begins punishing these organized criminals like they should be punished: confiscation of property, decades in prison ect ect then something will change for the better just like with any organized crime syndicate.

    The problem is politicians rely on white collar organized crime to ascend to power and people are stupid sheep...the paradox of democracy
     
    atvking, Jul 16, 2011 IP
  20. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

    Messages:
    10,932
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    #40
    If the Jewish bankers did plan this and there is a huge Jewish conspiracy out there, I still haven't received my share!
     
    DomainMagnate, Jul 16, 2011 IP