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Determine Keyword Competition

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by a389951l, Nov 11, 2004.

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    What are people using to determine keyword competitiveness? I use mcdar's tool but would like another tool to cross-check.

    Any suggestions?
     
    a389951l, Nov 11, 2004 IP
  2. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Wordtracker.

    Google Search.
     
    T0PS3O, Nov 11, 2004 IP
  3. a389951l

    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    Yeah. I tried wordtracker using kei as a factor for competitiveness but it was not that great IMHO.
     
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  4. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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  5. a389951l

    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    I thought the suggestion tool was used more to understand the potential number of searches for a keyword. I suppose that is also an indication of competitiveness also.
     
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  6. mhdoc

    mhdoc Tauren

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    I find myself with many windows open when I am researching a term. The key word suggestion tool to get a feel for how many searches there might be, Amazon to see if there are related products, overture to see if bids are high enough to make it worth while, enom to see if there are matching domain(s) available, Google/msn/Yahoo searches to check out the compatition, etc.

    I am sure there are more, but the combination builds a picture that works for me.
     
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  7. magiana

    magiana Peon

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    There is also a tool called Search It. It´s free and can be used for different kinds of searches.
     
    magiana, Nov 11, 2004 IP
  8. randfish

    randfish Peon

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    Hate to plug my own stuff, but I've actually been using it and been very pleased - Keyword Difficulty Calculator - http://www.socengine.com/c/seo/keyword-score-tool.html

    It's a little more manual than I'd like and will certainly receive some upgrades in the future, but it still is efficient and informative.
     
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  9. mhdoc

    mhdoc Tauren

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    RANDFISH

    That's a nice tool! Just having the direct links to the places to get the numbers was really convenient.

    I tried it for my established website and it said moderate difficulty with 2-6 months to be in the top ten. That sounds reasonable to me because there are really only two of us who seriously do this niche so it would not be that hard for a newcomer to get in.

    Now to try it out for some ideas I have...
     
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  10. randfish

    randfish Peon

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    mhdoc - I'm very pleased you like it. If you use it several times and have some suggestions or feedback, don't hesitate to post it here or PM. Best of luck with your projects!
     
    randfish, Nov 11, 2004 IP
  11. mhdoc

    mhdoc Tauren

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    Would you mind sharing a little more of your methodology?

    I tried it with a phrase I have been researching and came up with a 47% score indicating some significant difficulty. I have looked at the sites in the top ten for this phrase and except for the top two they seem to be vendor sites focused on the products they sell. Page rank on the 8-9-10 sites is below 4.

    My thought has been that a content focused site that went into broad detail about the technology, applications, uses and product selection would move ahead of vendor sites fairly quickly.

    Is any of that factored into your estimate?
     
    mhdoc, Nov 11, 2004 IP
  12. randfish

    randfish Peon

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    mhdoc - The tool is definitely not perfect, and it doesn't take into account the top 10 competitors, which is something I'm going to do in the future.

    For right now though, rather than looking at the score by itself, I would use it more as a comparison tool - to compare several keyword phrases and see which one might be the best to target based on # of searches vs. competition, etc.

    I'd also like to note that in the future, it will be much more automated so the only piece that will be necessary for users to enter will be the phrase and the overture # of searches info (as screen-scraping in that section is prohibited).

    Thanks for your comments, I hope it can still help. Don't forget to look at the top 10 competition though - they're a good way to tell just what you'll need to rank...
     
    randfish, Nov 11, 2004 IP
  13. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    Keyword Difficulty: 83.54% - Nearly Impossible

    muhah
     
    ferret77, Nov 11, 2004 IP
  14. anandmistry

    anandmistry Greenhorn

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    Can you give me some brief idea about How to use Google search to define proper keyword competition?
     
    anandmistry, May 27, 2010 IP
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    coolbuha Well-Known Member

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    Nice thread..learned more info about keyword..
     
    coolbuha, Sep 12, 2011 IP
  16. vickysharma

    vickysharma Greenhorn

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    Hello everyone,

    Can someone tell me is there any software or any method to know which keyword is being in traffic and competitive for a web site and how it should be taken. Kindly make some reply friends.

    Thanks.
     
    vickysharma, Sep 12, 2011 IP
  17. Vinil Mehta

    Vinil Mehta Member

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    you can use google adword
     
    Vinil Mehta, Sep 16, 2011 IP
  18. Lincherry

    Lincherry Peon

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    Try semrush for this. I use it and satisfied with it. Very qualitative keyword research tool.
     
    Lincherry, Sep 20, 2011 IP
  19. Matyy_22

    Matyy_22 Peon

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    Sorry, for buming on this discussion.

    I have a issue regarding picking a soft, tool ( you name it ) to check keyword competitiveness like a389951l.

    As advice : Google Adwards is not indicated since it provide results for adwords competition !?

    Kindly wait a reply!
     
    Matyy_22, Jan 13, 2012 IP