there are quiet a few thread in design forum dont belong there ( usually belong to temple/contest/programming) , most of the time they are not moved , it gets hard for someone like to me to provide my service , since my service thread are pushed down i.e to some 2-3 page where usually your service is not seen by members since most of them donet go deeper than 1-2 pages only . i know this is internet marketing forums but i think design forum should not be ignored . so it would be great if some mod kept eye on the threads in the design forum