Democrats more patriotic than Republicans

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  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #161
    How can you comprehend something when you don´t understand the language or know the background? :rolleyes:
    Just keep repeating I love Republican party and Israel, doesn´t make someone an American, Horale. ;)
     
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    #162
    Funny thread. The guys criticizing O'nation's opinion on the topic "Democrats more patriotic than Republicans" are almost uniformly from other countries and in many of their posts are pretty hardcore anti-US.

    That suggests their opinion on the topic is contra-indicative of the truth... no matter how many of them scurry in to say he's wrong.
     
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  3. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #163
    Wow. Bigot Alert (why is it always the liberals?).
     
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  4. boblord666

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    #164
    It's a massive disappointment to the world that unfortunately everything that America does will affect other countries especially US foreign and financial policies. We would give anything for that not to be so, but the reality is that we have to live with it. So I'm sure you will forgive us for having an opinion on certain topics.

    How do you judge pro-Obama comments to be hard-core anti-US.
     
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  5. grpaul

    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #165
    Oh please.... If not the US, then who?
     
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  6. boblord666

    boblord666 Member

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    #166
    Nobody that's who!! Are you another American who hates the government interfering in their business but wants the government interfering in every other country's business.

    Here's a tip - there are very, very few countries (if any at all) in the world who aspire to be "just like America". Go your own way and let others be.
     
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  7. grpaul

    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #167
    Right.. . And no one wants to come to America for work anymore, right?

    Here's a tip - remove your head from your ***.

    I am one of those Americans that thinks that if we help countries, and countries expect the help, we get to make the rules.
     
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  8. boblord666

    boblord666 Member

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    #168
    And that works a treat right. America making friends everywhere.

    A little story for you. Australia gives a great deal of aid to Indonesia, our loony right hate that fact. The aid started after the Bali bombings and we have built several thousand non-secular schools and thousands of kilometres of roads and other infrastructure. At the time of the Bali bombings, and these bombings were aimed at Australian tourists, we were the second most hated nation in Indonesia, you can guess who was first, because of our involvement in the Fight Terror with Terror things.

    We are now second on their list of most liked nations. AND, we let them run their country their own way.

    Now how did Iraq and Afghanistan work out for you blokes?

    Not sure whether you've noticed but there is a huge amount of movement between most countries for work, not just the US, these days. Something about opportunities and better transport.
     
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    Gomeza Well-Known Member

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    #169
    It is not even necessary to make pro-Obama comments to be branded anti-US by some of these people. I called out one them on a blatant anti-Obama lie, provided source material to validate my claim and well, . . . just look at how this thread has unfolded.

    In reality, I could not care less who wins the upcoming US election and have never once in this forum stated an opinion about either candidate or party but that doesn't seem to matter to some. I do however fully understand what you mean by reluctantly accepting the reality that the US has worldwide economic influence.

    It is a reality even more pronounced in my country. As the largest trading partner of the US, our economy is inextricably linked to theirs. My only hope is that whichever party gets into office keeps the ball rolling towards recovery.
     
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    #170
    Don't worry too much mate, the most that can happen is the childish amongst them will red rep you for expressing your opinion. Not exactly a defining event in anyone's life.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #171
    There is nothing wrong with being a Chicano, we are laughing at the fact that he is trying to live and act as a cartoonish character of what he thinks an American should be to deny his heritage. :D
     
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    #172
    There's a heck of a difference between anti-republican and anti-US though I can understand you might not think so. Can you please show us where anyone here has posted anti-US rhetoric?

    I mean, if you can't then doesn't that invalidate your post entirely?

    One could easily conclude any Republican voter is anti-US.
     
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    #173
    Bush - it's self evident that o'nation is surrounded by a pack of people from other countries telling him about his own country. That's funny on its face. The rest is icing on the cake. It's as if i decided to lecture Gomeza on the people of Spain or Gworld on the occupants of his native planet. :)
     
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    #174
    I'm pretty sure, as the self-proclaimed leader of the free world, most know enough about the good ol' USA in order to comment on the situation. Most simply don't want to see a repeat of the Bush era. I happen to agree he sent the whole world backwards. This pre-emptive strike business has opened up a pandora's box imho.

    Put aside the partisan crap, even you know Romney is a crazy choice for president. You also know he hasn't got a hope of winning, don't you? :)

    My point was 'the rest' was simply a figment of your imagination. Now Mikael's gone I do not see anybody posting anti-US stuff.

    If Spain or Canada made up 70% of the news you read then surely you can take part in a debate on those countries. Whilst I would much prefer to see and hear local news our US owned media feeds us a hell of a lot of U.S. news. I would not miss the blow-by-blow crap we get about this election but it's constantly pushed in our faces too. I guess it's much cheaper for them to simply repeat stuff they made for the U.S. audience than it is to supply more local news. Sucks big time imho.
     
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    #175
    If you really think Romney is a crazy choice you must've missed the stuff Obama's been up to.

    As for Romney having a chance of winning... he has a very good chance unless Obama's buddies at ACORN manage to turn out all the dead guys, fantasy characters, convicted felons and foreign nationals.

    Our Commander in Chief is AWOL

    -- A US Ambassador is murdered in an assault on our compound...
    -------------Obama still skips his security briefing and flies to Vegas for a fund raiser.

    -- Israel is threatening to go to war with Iran, and Iran's getting thermonuclear toys...
    -------------Obama tells Netanyahu he can't work him into the schedule while he's in NYC. Then Obama goes on The View, in NYC.

    -- We have 20+ diplomatic posts under siege, even have an Al Qaida flag flying over our embassy in Tunisia...
    --------------Obama meets with David Letterman, JZ, Beyonce, "Pimp with a Limp"{?!}, and goes to fundraisers.

    We have a president that described a military assault on a US diplomatic compound resulting in 4 dead as "a bump in the road". He's shunned our best ally in the region even though we have warships gathered off the Straits of Hormuz. The boy is partying while his foreign policy proves to be a huge error. He moved a lot of arabs from "Hate US" to "Hate US AND think we can bully them".

    He's doled out billions to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and yet they did NOT even try to defend our embassy when the walls were breached. Now Morsi is lecturing US. Obama's response is to make a BS address at the UN which plays into the muslim narrative that free speech they dont like is "slander".

    This isn't "partisan crap", it is fact. So yeah, Obama is VERY beatable, and Romney is a seasoned businessman, I'd much rather have him running our economy than this Chicago thug thats been paying off financial backers with tax money.
     
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    #176
    I'm no Obama fan but his foreign policy creates less enemies. I believe he's still trying to placate the USA from the mess Bush's crew made.

    What Obama seems to be doing is called politics. As opposed to barge in with his army a-la-neocon style. We both know he prefers drones and every militant will come across one some day. Why cause unneccessary anguish?

    You may also note it was an alqueida attack that killed the statesman. You may also note that residents then went on and stormed the militia unit that made the attack. Things are improving.

    Look into your heart of hearts, Romney hasn't a chance and that will be borne out within weeks.
     
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    #177
    Not sure what your'e basing that on. I'm IN the US and have a little better vantage point. I realize you see a lotta pro-Obama peple in forums, but I assume you do realize that guys from Australia, Spain, Canada et al don't get to vote here.

    Obama has done a good job of trying to buy votes in the US with pandering politics, but there's a pretty strong movement to make him an ex-president. Should be interesting to see how the debates go. Being off teleprompter is a very dangerous place for him.
     
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    #178
    Exactly. Right wings think that different approach would make the USA a lesser MAN. (don't know the exact words for it)
    Iraq is a mess. The US could have deposed Saddam but look what happened to Iraq. Just because of a non existent WMD the US ruined a lot of lives there.
     
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    #179
    That'd sound more convincing if we didn't have rioters storming over twenty US diplomatic posts in a span of a week. Note that it worsened instead of improved when our administration began to legitimize the complaint by agreeing that people here should not "slander" their prophet.
     

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    #180
    Those people represent the whole population ? I mean surely these are just a few rioters.

    same as the pic below. It does not represent the whole population. They burn the US flag near the US Embassy in Manila.

    111711-philippines-protest-.JPG
     
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