Democrats more patriotic than Republicans

Yeah, yeah, yeah couldn't help myself when a fool posted such an idiotic statement displaying such gross intolerance with these lovely words "It takes a liberal to rape threaten olympians and death threaten little girls ; your feminazi movement label all women who don't follow them "dumb sluts" and everyone who disagrees is a racist , a homophobic , a nazi (conservative jews included) and a bigot ."

And he has a signature such as he has.

With you I will always try to have the last post, simply to annoy you because I know you like to have the last post. Stuff happens so you'll need to get over it.

 

Awesome , I've always wanted to program a liberal . Now let's see , according to your instruction manual if I push the post button you'll push it too . OK time to test that .

Fetch boy !

 

Try taking a reading comprehension lesson.

 

Hmm...

Now that it's re-election time, we are hearing every excuse in the book coming from the left. Never before had we heard that the economy could not be fixed in 4 years, and the begging begins...

 

Atta boy Bobby. Who's a good liberal dog ? Yes , you're a good dog . Yes , you're a good dog .

Now can you roll over ?

 

Anyone that thinks a lack of bi-partisan cooperation started with the Republicans didnt pay any attention to what really happened when the Dems came into office with control of the white house, the senate, and the house, and began ramming their agenda thru.

Do a google search on the word, "Obama" coupled with the phrases "elections have consequences" and "you lost". You may find it educational if you are willing to learn.

Obama and the Democrats were given an infrequently available opportunity to run the show with control of the executive and legislative branches, and they commenced a spree of crony friendly theft where money was funnelled back into the hands of donors and bundlers in record amounts.

It didnt matter if the target to which they wanted to give money qualified or if they planned to build the project overseas... Obama made Andrew Jackson look timid, and took off on a massive campaign of tax fraud. He called it "investment". It did nil for the economy, it just made his wealthy friends wealthier. Obama since the beginning of his term has used the federal coffers like a personal piggy bank to reward the faithful.

If someone thinks opposing a robbery of ourselves, our children and our grandchildren is unpatriotic, they have a right to voice their view. That's the beauty of the first amendment... They have a right to be wrong at the top of their lungs. That said, they're still wrong. Nothing unpatriotic about fighting against a thief. We can't afford four more years of this corrupt dilletante.

 

I'm still surprised when I read statements such as this. Economic cycles do not run in lockstep with presidential terms. The deeper the recession, the longer it takes to come out of it. Truth be told there is no magic formula for bringing an economy out of recession. Any government attempting to deal with economic recovery has but 3 levers they can pull: Stimulus packages via tax incentives or deficit spending, turning on the money spigot and controlling interest rates. Propagating economic recovery becomes particularly daunting after years of deficit spending.

Hurling insults from partisan entrenchments that ignore these realities is nothing more than background noise.

 

Take note. You are hearing it again. Obama's campaign slogan now is "I couldn't do it in four, so I need four more". Voters under FDR bought that line of crap three consecutive times in a row, and had it not been for WWII, the economy would never have recovered under FDR.

This is all part of the mindset that says failure needs to be rewarded. Take Chicago, where the teachers are striking despite having an average compensation package approaching $80k/year before benefits, despite being nearly impossible to fire, despite having 80% of their 8th grade population lacking basic reading proficiency. Why are they striking? It isn't over pay. They got their guaranteed 16% pay hike over four years regardless of performance. No, they are striking because they are now being asked to deliver testable performance results. They are being asked to succeed, and with a requirement to succeed comes a consequence for failure. Obama wants to avoid his consequence for failure.

Obama had previously embraced one of Warren Buffets ideas on taxing the rich. I think he should adopt another one of Warren Buffets ideas. Any elected Federal legislator or Executive should be ineligible for reelection if he/she presides over two years of deficit in excess of 1% of the budget.

 

I really don't understand.

At the time Obama was elected President, the Democrats had super-majorities in both Houses. Democrats had already passed House rules to silence the Republican minority. The Republicans could not filibuster or even debate. Health Care "reform" was passed without Republican consent. What, exactly, was the form of this Republican "united and unyielding opposition to the president's economic policies" when the Republicans were not even allowed to speak? What form did this "opposition" take?

Remember, this was the spending that Obama PROMISED would keep unemployment below 9%. Instead, the unemployment rate rocketed from George Bush's 6.6% to an almost unheard of 10%. The Democrats spent enough of our hard-earned taxpayer dollars to GIVE each household in this country $14,000.

And I can tell you from my own experience that this money was not for the general public. It was for the Democrat's cronies. Anyone who tried to get a piece of that money found that out very fast.

 

Democrats more patriotic? Let's take a look at the Democratic version of Voter Fraud, shall we?

[video=youtube;eUJE9YfsbNQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUJE9YfsbNQ[/video]
Ah, yeah. Sure. That was two-thirds. Isn't that hilarious? Doesn't matter what the PEOPLE want, only matters what the PARTY wants. All Hail the Party! Down with Democrats that do not pledge allegiance to the Democratic Party Leadership!


How 'bout this one:

Democratic Candidate for Congress Caught in Voter Fraud
Democrat Wendy Rosen dropped out the race for United States Congress representing Maryland when she was caught voting in both Maryland and Florida in the 2006 general election, and also in the 2008 presidential primaries. However, no charges have been filed against Rosen and both votes officially count.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/11/md-democrat-drops-out-congressional-race/

 

Why is the convention hall so empty ?

 

Suggest thread titles?

Democrats more pathetic than Republicans

Democrats more desperate than Republicans

 

Or we could mirror the 'clap your hands if you believe' stuff the media is peddling with something like:
"NEWS FLASH: New CNN Poll Shows Obama Leading 3:2 in Poll of Obama Staffers and Immediate Family!"

 

Have any Americans noticed the the Eurozone is still struggling after having the very real grief of the GFC blasted through their economies. Still has large pockets of unemployment, countries that haven't made it out of recession and a huge amount of debt across the board. Probably signifies that bad times are hard to suddenly just jump out of and how hard it actually is to just revert to the good times. But if it doesn't happen in your country, just blame the government.

How are those tax cuts for the rich going over there? I think the theory is that they fuel employment isn't it. How's that going for you, reached full employment yet after how many years of tax cuts or have the rich just got richer and the poor been blamed for the country's problems?

How are those regulations forced upon banks going, they going to the wall yet or they back making huge profits and their execs making hugely obscene bonuses?

The very healthy stockmarket indicates that US companies are back to making great profits again. Did they start hiring staff again or are they just banking their riches and feeding it back into their wealthy shareholder's pockets?

Just like the right wing loonies in Australia some people have completely forgotten what the GFC did to the economies of the world. Unlike in Australia your blokes want to repeat the same mistakes.

And that is just so wrong, wrong, wrong.

 

I've explained in detail what happened to our economy before. Believe it was early in the thread about "is the US headed for a depression" thread, back in 2008, just before the stock crash... Which was the result of securities backed by the real estate securities that were involved in the real estate crash. Rather than repeat it, i'll refer to that, cause it doesnt appear you've got an entirely accurate picture of the root of our crash.

That said... No, they didnt throw the big players in jail like they should have. THey took bailouts and went back to giving each other bonuses but with tax dollars. Too many were in tight with the politicians, and their best ties took the white house and both legislative houses right after the crash. Do a search on the term "friends of angelo". Very bad bongos... And our legislators were in bed with him bigtime. Just one example.

The american public doesnt like to acknowledge it... But the crash was not only caused by terrible policies, it had the cooperation of the public all the way down to the grass roots level. I said then it would take a loooong time to dig out from under it. Obama is the idiot that promised the sun moon and stars in one term, not me. My point is his policies have basically exacerbated the problem instead of fixed them. Printing money and throwing it to his donors hasnt had the salutarious effect one might hope for.

 

It's a common theme across the world. Politicians don't deliver on election promises. Ask any cab or tuk tuk driver in any country. The government sucks! The only people I have ever found who spoke good words about their government was in Fiji - military dictatorship. Politicians make promises to get elected and then find reasons to break them. It's part of being a democracy.

We have three new conservative government governments in our most populous States. Each are now sacking staff in their tens of thousands, reducing Health and Education services, and increasing taxes. Certainly can't remember any of that being an election promise.

Far as I'm concerned, if you haven't made your mind up before rash promises are made you shouldn't have a vote. Good luck to the US but I'm one of the (apparently) 8 out of 10 Australians who want Mr Obama back.

 

If you *really* want him back I'm willing to kick in for transportation, but once you have him ya gotta keep him.

 

Ahhhh. Something very rare in this forum. The voice of pure reason devoid of political bullsh!t. I see all the political voices avoided your simple but elegant response.

 

He will abscond to Kenya before we ever get a chance to prosecute him.

Bob does bring up one good point. We have lots of new legislation in place to deal with "Too big to Fail". Dodd-Frank in particular would allow the government to break up entities that pose a systemic risk to the economy. Strangely, with all that new regulation, the big banks are bigger than ever. If their failure posed a risk to our economy before, that risk is an order of magnitude larger today than it was when Bush was in office. Why?

My sig link actually connects to a site run by a hard lefty Ralph Nader. It basically requests that Obama follow through and break up the big banks. Naders asking for it, the ex CEO of Citibank is asking for it, many on the right are asking for it, the nation could really use it, and Obama has the tools to do it. So why doesn't he?

 

In case you haven't been keeping up, the "recession" didn't get deep until AFTER Obama started spending money like a drunken sailor. Remember when Obama was elected and the unemployment rate was only 6.6%? It was only after his $4 Trillion crazy deficit spending dangerously unbalanced the economy that he drove unemployment to over 10%.

Just to be clear - to Earl, "The voice of pure reason devoid of political bullsh!t" is "political bullsh!t" that supports Earl's bias.