Deep Linking Strategies

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by aeiouy, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. #1
    In my novice training here.. It has finally dawned on me that geeting deep links is important.

    For some of my sites I have focused primarily on funneling traffic through the home page, but have started to try and direct traffic to more specific pages with different information. My sites tend to be very narrowly focused so individual pages don't always tend to stand on their own. When I have special sections and content, I link to them directly, otherwise it has been to the homepage.

    Recently I brought a group of directory sites I have into one site, and will be actually able to deeplink fairly easily...

    In a general sense though, what is a good strategy for getting deep links out there? I know a lot of directories don't want anything but home page listings... So what have you done that has worked for getting deep links?

    I guess part of my problem is mental. In my mind it seems so much cleaner to just have simpler links and direct traffic through the site, but that is obviously not the only and best way to do things...

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #2
    1. request them in exchanges
    2. use link vault
    3. start a blog
    4. write an article
    5. ummm....
     
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  3. Justilien

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    - Create quality content people will naturally link to. Focus on building pages you can get ranked high. Many people look for the top results in Search Engines when listing resources for their users.

    - Do Link Exchanges. If you only have a few sites offer them something else besides a link in exchange (you don't want any unnatural patterns developing). Offer them some cash, free products or perhaps even offer to pay for their submission to a major directory.
     
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  4. Shoemoney

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    Here is a really easy way to do deep linking I have found A LOT of success with.

    Use googles sitemap perl script they give you for free.

    Use something like magpie or rss that will read your links and also cache. Have them grab like 5 random urls and put them at the bottom of every page.

    Using this technique i went from 60k to 450k indexed urls on 1 site alone.

    I have no experience with linkvault or dp coop really. The linking to sites I dont know about scares me so I just stay away.
     
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    shoe, I am a bit confused about your idea, could you elaborate a bit more?
     
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  6. Shoemoney

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    sorry... google sitemap generates a really nice xml sitemap for you. from that you can use a rss reader and pick a random 5 urls to link to in like the footer of all your pages. I parse these a little bit to get the anchor text but even linking with some standard anchor texts i think would be better then nothing for deep internal linking

    I said magpie rss just because that is what I use. It also has a nice cacheing feature. I set it to expire every 30 days so the links appear more static. You of course could set this to 1 year or so if you wanted.
     
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  7. fryman

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    Well, now you confused me more...

    Ok, you generate the sitemap, and then what? You are saying that you put up 5 random RSS links on your footers. What footers? The ones on the pages of your site? What is the difference then than using the coop? And what does this have to do with your sitemap? :confused:


    .... mmm... now that I read your post a few times I thing I understand what you are saying. What you mean is that you generate a sitemap, and then use a script to get hold of 5 random links from that sitemap and put them in your footer, am I right?
     
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  8. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    Fryman, from my understanding he means the rss parser will randomly select 5 different URLs from the XML sitemap, which you could display in the footer of your site.
     
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    exactly...

    Its different from the coop in that you link deeply to ALL of your pages.

    For instance on 1 site I had it went from 60k indexed pages to 400k indexed pages consistantly over the last year using this technique.

    Would anyone be interested in this? I could whip it up to work with googles sitemap. It would be a few days. Had a death in my family last week and I just got home today from that. Now I have about 30 hours until my plane leaves for washington dc but perhaps early next week I could whip up something if anyone wants it.
     
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  10. fryman

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    Yeah... interesting concept... now I just need to figure out how to use Google's sitemap script, it has all kind of weird options and I have no idea of what to select, might as well hire some guy at scriptlance to take care of that and build me a good script to do what you are doing.
     
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  11. dcristo

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    Fryman, do a search for "sitemap generator" on DP, I'd imagine you wouldnt have to use the G tool to acheive the same thing.
     
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    yea... basically all the google sitemap does is parse your log file for urls people are hitting then puts that output into xml so the search engine can index your site. (you prob know that)

    I just figured why reinvent the wheel since I run sitemaps nightly anyway I just went ahead and implemented this too. Probably the best way to do this would be to parse the log file and enter them into a database then use the rand() in your select to randomly pick urls.

    You can get a dev to do that should be pretty trivial for them if they are worth a piss ;)

    I will be available like next week though if you need some help.
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Effectively, Shoemoney has formed his own Coop with himself as the only member.
     
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    The problem with those is that they only have a limited capacity, most of them don't go past 700 pages, I have sites with tens of times that number so I need something more powerful, I guess Google's special tool would be the best one in this case
     
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    yea... I love googles python script. It outputs about 750k urls in less then 2mins of parsing my log file doing 50k urls per file.

    Also you can have google come and pick it up nightly for the double win on indexing deep.
     
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    I generate Google sitemaps on one of my sites using `ls *.shtml` and then using `sed` to prepend the site's URL to the front of every line in the file.

    Then, I run Google's little Python script and Voila!
     
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    ahhh yea that would work good for static stuff... my urls are less then 10 files though =(
     
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    Shoe, I'd be interested in something you were to create if you don't mind...
     
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    I use this Site Map Generator its really good and easy to use:
    http://www.auditmypc.com/free-sitemap-generator.asp
    Once i just let it run and it cought my forum and then when i turned the smitemap the next day into google i went from having 18 pages indexed to like 10,050 it had all the forum topics plus every other possible page that the forum could generate, It was pretty cool.

    Sometimes i use just to scan Yahooo or Google or some other major site it's pretty cool to see how many pages of real content these websites have, try ezinearticles.com it comes out to 100K of pages all articles, too.
     
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    wow nice tool
     
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