If you kill someone, the most justice that can be done in this world is to have yourself killed by due process of law. I dunno about Quran, but the Bible pretty much says it should be allowed under a just system of law.
But in the Bible, Jesus said that we must forgive people even if they were a murderer. And He said that we never have any reason to take everyone's soul. How about that?
Actually, let's be clear. The "Bible" makes no provision for capital punishment. In fact, from my reading of it, the historical Jesus would have been leader of the charge for its abolition. The Old Testament does make such a provision. Nothing "girl" about it. She's right.
Being a yoyo again are you? At least show us what you are talking about, because you make no sense with what you said as usual.
The "christian" party, the "christian" president, and his "christian" voters are the ones who want to continue with the torture
I thought the thread was on the death penalty and not torture. But then again you know everything (that a 19 yr old could in your circumstance.)
Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 5:17 Jesus or Yashua recongnized Mose, and the old testment (generally). If anything, he clarified the importance of loving your fellow man; but even he had restrictions on whom would be permissable to 'heaven'. The bible itself is a testimony of 'god's' desire for man/men to be on his team ie to not work for those that hate him. Sodom...Saint Michael...adam & Eve....almost everything is about respecting the value of his intimacy. Those whom respect god go to 'heaven'. Since Moses story is recongnized by Jesus, one can't withdraw that from the context of the story. Mose did fight and kill. Mose fought against his 'own' people when they lined up on the opposing side and said they worshiped a new idol...although the context was threatening. I can't/won't speak for Jesus, but I don't believe he made a clause of thoughts that prohibited men from ever using violence...I believe his message was rather clear: forgive and try to resolve as much as you can. But Jesus did have his limits...one could not be forgiven for believing evil was good and good was evil.The question: if he would have 'given on to Ceasar's, what was Ceasar's', was qualified by what was given to God....so I can't make an accessement about Jesus perception on never allowing violence...as I don't think he made any absolute comment on such. In full contexts it doesn't make sense to come to a conclusion that he forbade violence completely...but I would say it's hard to or wrong to say he commend the use of violence. http://www.thewords.com/english/themercy.htm
Yeah, that dreaded "belly slap" on terrorists with critical information to spare thousands just isn't worth it. I mean, can you imagine personal indignation from a tummy rub, when thousands of lives are at hand? http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1874823,00.html OMG! Say it isn't so, not the disco strobe light manipulation while listening to red hot chili peppers! What? No eight hours of sleep? Oh, the humanity, the injustice! I've seen fist fights at elementry schools with worse things to worry about
There is some evidence for the existence of a historical Jesus. Regardless, this isn't the point of the thread. The thread starter asked if there was provision in the Bible or Q'uran for the death penalty. Therefore, we have to stick to these two texts to debate the subject, not whether any of the stories from either text were true.
A killed by B, then C give death punishment to B. What is the different about B and C? They're all same... Murderer! What do u think about it?