David Rohde's Insights Into What Motivates the Taliban

nah, it was referring to google top keywords, but shouldn't that be in search engine --> google section?

 

lol
so you object at my use of word 'incident' is a murder not an incident ?
what I said about twisting to 9-11 still stands


I am sure if you asked ussr, they will also tell you a thousand 'valid' reasons of attacking Afghanistan

there is no difference between the invasion of USSR and invasion of USA but somehow those who were fighting against ussr were 'freedom fighters' and those were are offering resistance now are 'terrorists' .. life is indeed funny!

 

I didnt refer to A murder. I referred to a long series of beheadings, children shot, limbs amputated, etc. Go ahead and add "too stupid to use Google" to your resume, you failed the test.

Doubt theirs beat ours... and I'm positive their results werent as good.

No difference? Well, for starters... we won. They didnt. That might be considered a difference now dont ya think?

You think the US is arrogant, right? That's favorite word of inferior people the world over... if they cant be better than someone they just wrap themselves in the self-righteous notion that the other guy is "arrogant". Newsflash: It aint braggin if you can do it. The Taliban decided to get cute, but when they had to go up against soldiers instead of women, girls and defenseless outnumbered men as they prefer... they got their butt handed to them on a platter. Sucks doesnt it? Your heroes are nothing but a rabble of ignorant thugs.

 

trying too hard to prove yourself a genius huh?

Please read again

and even if you win. this will not make this attack on Afghanistan legitimate. just as the USSR attack was illegitimate so is yours

and you won ? really
what big general says

last time I checked there were around 50K troops from Nato and US still deployed there ? are they there for harvesting weed ?
such 'win' was also secured by USSR and we know what happened to them later

calling others "inferior people" .. this tells us a lot about your state of mind ... but still you can call me racist ..no problem

I wouldn't say like that
armed with nothing more than ak47s and putting up a consistent resistance against the worlds mightiest armies for the past 8 years .... sure ain't the play of faint of hearts and keyboard warriors like us

 

Your last statement says it all. You dont argue they are NOT your heroes, you argue that they didnt get their butt handed to 'em.
If you idolize the Taliban, yes, you are vastly inferior to me. Only a fool thinks the Taliban are heroes.

 

Taliban is/was the result of American and Russian operations in that region.

 

Well, if you think theyre our creation then you wont mind us correcting that error by removing the little putzes from the gene pool.

 

Here are some real excerpts from the article.

The Taliban abuse Moslems who do not follow their own rigid codes. heck with abuse, they torture and kill them. they celebrate the deaths of non-fundamentalist, non Taliban moslems.

they recruit the least educated and feed them a constant volume of death and destruction. they create a mindset that ends up in human suicide bombers.

 

@rob
I am so sorry that I burst your bubble of 'win', I can understand the reason of your annoyance .
no problem .. you can consider everyone who disagrees with you as 'vastly inferior' and 'fool' .. that will help to satisfy your big ego


@earlpearl

this is much like the thinking of Washington, the same you are with us or against us policy , no wonder cia was their mentor

here is another good read, do have a look

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...ve-driven-the-war-in-afghanistan-1806191.html

 

New - Not really seeing how it's MY bubble that got burst... I'm not the one that started a thread on the basis of either a misunderstanding of what Rhode's said or an intentional misinterpretation. As for what constitutes a "win"... when 5 countries attack 1 neighbor and end up with less territory than they started with... you can say you won all day, but the rest of the world defines that as "loser".

 

1st you twisted to 9-11 and now you dragged ME in discussion
Did you forget that we were discussing TALIBAN and AFGHANISTAN not isreal and Palestinians ?
where you had claimed that you had won in Afghanistan

but your General really didn't agree with you

America's top commander in Afghanistan warns that more troops are needed there within the next year or the nearly 8-year-old war "will likely result in failure," according to a copy of a 66-page document obtained by The Washington Post

here is more, straight from fox

and does it get more absurd than that 'insurgency' .. I mean ... hello ... have a look ...who is being an insurgent here ... Gen. Stanley McChrystal hailing from USA ..which lies just around 8000 miles away from Kabul .. or the local Pashtun who have been living there for thousands of years .
... you invade, attack, bomb and terrorize a country and when locals fight back .. they are termed as 'insurgents' ... so laughable

what is next in line from you ...must be anti-semite card, as when all sane arguments end people mostly end-up using taking refuge in that

 

Looking at the initial post, we're discussing David Rhode's opinions, which conveniently dovetailed with your own prejudices... until Earl pointed out you credited Rhode's with someone else's words. Was that done intentionally or is your reading comprehension so poor you can't tell the difference? Just curious, cause one indicates you lied, the other that you aren't very bright. Which is it?

 

David Rhode's opinions were on TALIBAN or isreal and Palestine ?

 

Answer the question. The initial post was largely mis-attributed to Rhodes. Was this deception intentional or due or inability to comprehend what you read?

 

why are you remembering it now at the 34th post ... were you sleeping while arguing during past 30 posts ?

is this because as your bubble got bust so you now want to beat the dead horse once again ... remorse ?

come'on
1st you call me junior and young
than you call me inferior and fool
now you think I am not bright ... is this the way you have been taught to argue ?

 

Guess I could continue to ask you to tell us whether the deception was intentional or thru stupidity, but it's getting old watching you try to crawfish out of admitting the truth.
My own guess is that it was unintentional. Veracity isnt your strong point.

 

Rob:

I think the entire thing was intentional. I had been reading the excerpts from the series as they first came out. It simply didn't have any of the flavor of how New posted it. It wasn't even close. I referenced that inititially. It was entirely off. The entire series is predominantly about David Rhodes period during which he was kidnapped, held hostage, and how there were efforts to get money for him.

It just had no flavor or orientation about who is responsible for the wars, where does the fault lie, etc. It wasn't even close.

Later I went back and looked closely at the details. New extracted one paragraph from the original article and then tied it to a different article written in Salon.

In America there people can freely write with wildly different opinions. The Salon writer was pointing to problems and issues and then pointing blame on the US. That writer, Greenwwald doesn't think the US media is focusing on abuses by America.

Frankly, I disagree. During the period from 2001/ post 9/11 till now, as the US has taken actions that not all within the US agree with...there have been lots of commentary in the US from those that disagree with administration policy. Much of it has been covered by mainsteam media (MSM).

That is what a free society is about.

OTOH; as depicted in the Rhodes articles, the Taliban brook no dissension or disagreement. They torture, disembowl those that disagree, or even those they think disagree.

Having done that they leave the dead in public places to make sure the rest of the population fears the Taliban.

They are vicious, cruel and dictatorial.

What was additionally interesting to me was how Rhodes described how the potential suicide bombers are forcefed a singular form of information.

They are being mindlessly led to the slaughter house by the Taliban leaders. All they see is information from the most extreme positions. They are endlessly shown information about death and destruction; they see it all the time, and the act of suicide bombing is glorified.

The Taliban are sacrificing young impressionable humans and turning them into suicide killers. These kids aren't given a chance.

It is what the rest of the world is up against. That is not just the US, its not just the West, but its also, more moderate forms of Islam.

The Taliban celebrate the suicide killings of less extreme forms of Islam.

If anyone had an ounce of brainpower in reading the David Rhodes articles on his imprisonment, they would have known that it didn't at all reflect what New wrote.

I think New did this intentionally, distorting a piece of writing to wage his little war of misinformation.

 

OK .. fine..
may be you can also explain that how did you manage to chip-in with mention of Arab-isreal war ...while discussing the American 'win' of Afghanistan ...apples and oranges !

the answer to what you are asking me.. has been already given to earl by me in 11th post....but since you like to beat the dead horse .. so you can continue
and link to commondream was already there in 1st post .. from where I had copied it

 

Just making sure anyone that sees your original post knows it isnt factual, and that your incredible discovery that even hostages mistreated by Taliban thugs really agree with your warped little worldview was just wishful thinking of a brainwashed kid that doesn't understand what he reads.

 

yes, that is why you jumped in to bring Arab-isreal war here ... i am sorry... you are a genius

and both of you also have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Ridley . which was yet another hostage 'mistreated by Taliban'