Oh, I wrote this at like 2 AM, surely it has some horrible grammatical errors... for example... "Give me my backups and you'll have a chance to win your backups" I meant "Give me my backups and you'll be able to earn back your reputation" Guy get's confused when he's tired, ya know?
Unfortunately not everyone shares that opinion, especially if that party holds the cards. I myself don't find the word bullshit necessarily rude and abusive, especially if it isn't used on me personally. But others believe otherwise, whether it's as a personal attack or not.
Well Reference.com defines "Personal Attack" as Attempt to defame another, or to Attack someone's reputation. Regardless of opinion, i doubt any Court in the land would classify the statement "Bloody Server" as a personal attack or Abusing Staff especially when taken in context with the whole message which was quite polite towards staff. Where you come from, if you said to the police "That bloody car is blocking my drive" would you be charged and arrested? No of course not, however if i took your property and refused to give it back would i be arrested? Definitely. Regardless of the legal standpoint, Danserv clearly has no morals and i can't see them excelling in this industry.
Great points - They're in the UK and I'm in the US. Trust me, if I could bring this into court I would. The loss of some files on the server could get ME in trouble (hosted websites on it that I sold) - Anyway, his 24 hours is practically over. So it's time for the tables to turn - he had his chance to change it and it's gone. I'm contacting the best legal minds I know to make sure I get those files and some money for the losses. Any ideas on where I can go or what I can do to open a claim against them if they're in the UK? -Aiiron
By whom was the phrase "Bloody Server" defined as abuse? I don't see a list of words that would be considered vulgar or abusive if said inside a ticket. Even if they did have some list, Bloody Server isn't even language being used towards the representative. People... Just don't use them, it's plain and simple.
That’s a shame. His business could potentially be seriously damaged by what looks to be the thread starters fault. I personally side with the web host. His response to the host in this thread and in the emails that were sent post-termination were, in my opinion, rude, and it’s not an attitude for someone in that position to have.
That's completely ridiculous. I held back my anger so that this didn't happen. Perhaps you work for danserv? Just a theory. Everyone has their own point of view, and I pray to GOD that his business IS severely damaged, there's so much more posts and warnings to come (on other top rated forums and websites) - That's just the very tip of the iceberg. The way that Danserv handled this issue was undoubtedly irrational, it's insane that they deleted all of my files just because one of their representatives was having a bad day - Dan's going to have a horrible day when he goes to see his profits and finds that he hasn't even broken even. The day will come, the day's approaching. The day is almost here EDIT: Oh - Sure I had every right to be rude AFTER what they did. And even then I DID hold back, I even lied to them and sucked up. I can say whatever I please to such an incompetent host. -Aiiron
I’m just going by what I’ve read. On the first page, you’re quoted as saying that you did abuse him and your way of handling the situation was in an “aggressive†manner. Now, I don’t know how much of that was honesty or you trying to suck up to get your back-ups, but those were you words. Also, “danserv†said that they had to deal with your misconduct multiple times (illegal script….content….whatever it was). Is any of that true? That’s really what I was basing my opinion on, that and what I felt were rude responses. EDIT: Lol, and I forgot to say, no, I do not work for "danserv".
Well, that largely depends on what the issue is, isn't it? Other than Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, I haven't found any legal decision declaring whether words or so are abusive or not, and that's no requirement for judges in other courts in other jurisdictions to adopt any similar ones. This member's post: Is an example of what I mean when others don't agree. It's fine to disagree to a certain extent, but no one is required to see how another sees it. OTOH, the real issue here is the host won't give the OP his website or even a backup for a variety of reasons. When two parties can't agree and one wishes to force the issue, isn't that where courts come in? I'll tell you straight up, Aaron, that I doubt any competent lawyer will say you have a chance of holding the host liable for what you believe have done some wrong to you, especially you're both in different parts of the globe. I've read various decisions tackling this and similar disputes, and most were in favor of the provider due to contractual agreements. What makes yours tough is both of you don't have any "formal" relationship of any kind. But hey, what do I know since no one has to take my word for it?
No, there were no illegal or nulled scripts as they accused. Look, I am so sick of this issue. I have contacted a close friend of mine, Mr. Thahir Mohammed Jabir Ased (I think that's his full name) - Anyway, he's a consulate at the US/Saudi Arabian embassy. One of his websites was on that server which he bought from me. He has had a detective contact me for a similar issue in the past and we resolved it and are now friends. - He should very well be able to ring up the Us/UK embassy and sort something. I have all of Dan's information (he didn't think to block it from the who.is) so he should expect a call very soon from a VERY angry man, nicknamed Jaby -Aiiron
Well, if the host has enough resources to retain legal counsel, then I doubt if threats are going to do much. In my previous life, I get those every other day and they generally ended up nowhere. Of course, I'm speaking from experience. Mileage may vary.
To have any legal ruling against the OP for abuse would be like pushing crap uphill with a toothpick. Anyhow all legal issues aside, i find the fact Danserv can spend half hour coming here to register and post instead of spending 5 minutes emailing the OP a link to gather his files disgusting. Personally i wouldn't be able to sleep at night if i done that to someone and i can't get over how some people just totally lack any form of compassion what so ever. Anyhow, Karma mysteriously made this thread pop up at #3 and #4 for Danserv.co.uk and #4 and #5 for just Danserv with the title Danserv.co.uk - Backup Theft and it might even outrank their PR2 yet. Such is life.
Why didn't the host contact the relevant parties who made the scripts to find if they were nulled? for example for vbulletin contact piratereports. It does seem this thread took a swift turn from the original 1st page to them being wrong for terminating you. Yes webhosting is a tuff business and it doesn't help when clients moan but thats life. I think they should have suspended you and contacted you about it before choosing to terminate you. We contact the client first then suspend then eventually terminate. Anyway under UK law he cannot keep your data, look up the Data Protection Act. You won't get much for sueing him (ill be amazed if u got anything) but worth a threat maybe.
OK, now this is just unprofessional... Danserv used my stored information to find my main password (the one I use for all accounts) and decided that it would be a good idea to login to my DigitalPoint forums account (previously Aiiron) as well as my email (veraciousmedia@yahoo.com) and my Sitepoint account. The forum accounts are linked to the email - he changed the personal information on the Yahoo! so I can't get that back either. Danserv, why? Why won't you just give it up? You're just getting yourself in deeper. What was going through your mind when you phished my password from me. NEVER use Danserv, people - this is about the most immature, unprofessional act that I have ever witnessed from a web host, let alone experienced. Mods, PLEASE Don't ban this account. I know it's my second account, yes, but I had no choice. Danserv stole my password and I can't get it back. -- If you would be willing to help, Mods, maybe you can see the email I used previously on the account and send it there? That would be a great help. Just heed my warnings, stay away from anything involved with that con man Dan Dowling. - Aiiron
If this is true than this is serious misbehavior I do understand the Mods following DP policy however this guy didn't have much choice... I think most of us would have done the same