Custom Article Writing: Good Prices - High Quality - Perfect Grammar

Discussion in 'Content Creation' started by aletheides, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. #1
    English is my first language and my grammar is perfect. All content is 100% unique and written by me.

    Some topics I can write on: Business and Entrepreneurial, Real Estate and Home Repair, Attorneys and Law, Marketing and Promotion (online and off), Travel (some), Entertainment/Gaming/Music, Financial, Health, Medical, Tech, and Gambling.

    Topics I won't write about: Automotive and Adult.

    Buyer gets full rights!

    Please reply and I will PM you with my rates. Bulk discount available.

    See link to writing samples in signature...
     
    aletheides, Nov 24, 2006 IP
  2. cianuro

    cianuro Peon

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    #2
    Please PM me your rates.
    I need three articles written. One is Automotive.
     
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  3. ILoveWriting

    ILoveWriting Guest

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    #3
    Umm...your writing samples are filled with grammar errors and poor sentence construction. In the future, I think it would be better to employ a better pitch than leveraging off of "perfect grammar."
     
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  4. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #4
    I don't know how you drum up clients ILoveWriting, but if it consists of trash talking other writers than I seriously doubt your credibility as a professional. In the future, I think it would be better if you employed PM if you have an opinon about my writing.

    Thanks for all the PMs so far. You can see satisfied clients on my iTrader rating - the feedback proves itself.

    Regards,
    Andrew
     
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  5. ILoveWriting

    ILoveWriting Guest

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    #5
    Andrew,
    I was honestly trying to help you. I saw a large number of errors in the samples you posted, and wanted to help you realize this. If I wrote it, probably many here also thought it.

    There is a difference between offering sincere advice and "trash talking". Here's some other advice: try taking any of your articles to an English instructor (in the United States) and get their opinion of the grammar and sentence structure in your samples.

    I really wanted to help, because I have worked with editors for magazines, who were much more brutal in their assessments of writing that I was. I have also been a senior editor for companies and publications. And trust me, they are quite clear in their assessments. One editor I wrote for recently, told me he got my article, and one written by another writer, at the same time. He said, "Yours was great, didn't need any editing at all; the other was a complete mess, sloppily written, terrible grammar, a waste of my time." Please note that I didn't use any similar adjectives when describing your articles.

    If I were trash talking, I would have attacked you personally (as you did, me). Instead, I suggested you offer another selling point, and take a stronger look at your writing.

    I really do wish you the best in your career.
     
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  6. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #6
    Sheri,

    You know, I really think it's great that the editor just loved your article and thought the other guy's was crap...This has kind of been your trademark bigshot attitude all along. Something to chuckle about.

    Yet, your condescending attitude really isn't entertaining at all, here on my thread at least. Quit the shameless self promotion, it doesn't fly here.

    I find it funny the only people willing to post public criticisms happen to be other writers looking for writing work themselves. Someone messaged me a short while after your reply and said, "It's a dog-eat-dog world." I'd have to agree. I can ask nicely: Please get off my thread now?

    Thanks.

    P.S. If you have an unshakable hankering to critique other writers' sub-standard work, can I suggest this link: http://www.writerscritique.com/
     
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  7. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #7
    Well here's one for you. I may be another writer, but I don't accept article writing from 99% of webmasters, so I'm not in competition with what you're offering. Therefore, to ease your mentioned concern, I have no reason to be biased in the sense of wanting to compete for your work.

    I'd have to wonder how you're getting clients, between blatantly insulting people and falsely advertising your writing as having "perfect grammar" when it's far from it.

    I know Sheri, and will vouch for not only her skill and quality, but also her intentions. Before you lose your cool with people, stop and think. If there's truth in what she's saying (and there is), look for ways to improve, or find another marketing angle than claiming something that isn't true. If you bash everyone who throws constructive criticism your way you'll never improve.

    From Sheri's experience, she certainly doesn't need the penny per word kinds or articles here, so why you're throwing accusations around in the sense of her doing it to compete with you is beyond me. And as I said, personally I don't consider you competition to the type of writing I do, so I have no reason to be biased in that sense. I, along with several other professional writers here on DP (including Sheri) actively go out of our way to HELP underpaid writers learn how to improve and earn MORE.... So please know what you're saying before you throw things around. You only make yourself look silly, not her. If you don't want people making comments, don't falsely advertise something you're not providing, in the hopes that someone with worse English won't notice. Just take it for what it is, work to improve, and you'll be getting even more clients in the long run, and at significantly more pay.

    If you decide you want help to improve, and can take it without biting someone else's head off, then feel free to contact me privately, or stop by the new freelance writing forum in my sig... we're there to help writers improve and learn. I know as well as anyone how easy it is to get caught up in the moment and take things personally. But lashing out isn't going to help you win clients. If someone says something, and it's true, acknowledge it, ask questions if you don't see the problems, fix them, and take it as a learning experience. Life's full of them. ;)

    Jenn
     
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  8. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #8
    Girls, I think it's great you are so concerned about my writing abilities. Really, I do.

    While I'm not underpaid in my eyes, I might be in yours. The laws of supply and demand work here for writing as well. I have no problem picking up the clients that don't want to pay your 'professional' fees. I like the volume I get, it pays the bills.

    What really makes a writer a professional? Is it the rates they charge or how many clients they satisfy in a week?

    If it's rates, that's your bag. If it's satisfied clients, that's mine.

    Just call me hungry.

    So please excuse me, I would rather spend my words for when I am paid for them.

    Ta-ta.
     
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  9. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #9
    Well good luck in whatever writing path you choose. If you'd prefer spending time having to write dozens of articles for a mediocre portfolio (webmaster pieces in a portfolio don't get taken seriously the vast majority of the time if you'd want to move up to a professional level later on), more power to you. The rest of us are quite content having to only spend a fraction of that time, making more money, and having more free time. We're willing to help you and others out, but if you don't want it you're perfectly capable of sticking to lower paying gigs.

    My problem with your posts was less about your writing and more about your attitude and blatant false advertising to get clients however... something I'd strongly suggest you steer clear of in the future if you don't want people calling you out on it.

    Jenn
     
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    YoungSmeagol Well-Known Member

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    #10
    Well, I for one use a few articles from article submission sites just to bulk up on content a little bit. His service would be a step up for me and my small website/s. It makes more since to buy articles like these since you won't get hit with a duplicate content penalty.

    So he has a very specific customer base. Also this probably should have went in the services section instead. This section has more professional copywriters in it.
     
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  11. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #11
    It's not a question really of there being a demand for cheap content... it's that they're claiming to offer something that they're not, and what they're claiming is implying a higher quality than the samples show. The writing isn't terrible or anything in the slightest. The samples are better than a lot that I see here, and the writer definitely has potential to improve to be earning quite significantly more... just not by being deceptive and by not being open to constructive criticism. As you said though, it should have been posted in the services section as an actual sales thread, and then it wouldn't have appeared here or likely been critiqued in the first place.
     
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  12. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #12
    Jhmattern it's a good thing your opinions are just that, opinions.

    Stop overdramatizing everything - and calling me 'deceptive' is laughable. Like I said, check the feedback for my most recent satisfied clients. Jhmattern, since you don't know how to do this, just take my word for it.

    The horse was beat to death 4 posts ago, by the way.

    Reposted in services so I can avoid another thread like this. Sorry!
     
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  13. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #13
    lol Satisfied customers don't make your claim accurate. Overdramatizing occurred when you decided to bash someone for trying to help you, especially after you. If you don't want anything said, don't make false claims, and keep offers in the services area and you simply won't have that problem. Good luck with sales all the same.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #14
    For once, I disagree with you, jhmattern. Sheri was wrong to come to aletheides thread and bash him. That is very unprofessional and NOT COOL!!!

    Even if she is your friend, jhmattern, you have to admit she was wrong to do it.
     
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  15. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #15
    No... if he had posted in the services forum where this belonged, I might agree. But he's blantantly falsely advertising his services, and if he's going to do that he deserves to be called out on it. An offer to help was made and he did nothing but turn it entirely personal. If you can't handle constructive criticism in a simple forum in a professional sense, and resort to personal bashing in response to a professional criticism, you'll never be a professional. He made a mistake, he was called on it, and he could have fixed it, asked where the problems were if he didn't honestly know, etc. Instead he went right to getting overly defensive and insulting, criticizing someone else's professionalism as, at the same time, he was not only essentially lying about his abilities but acting like a child at the same time. He'll learn the easy way or the hard way like everyone does, and hopefully he won't react the same way again. At this point I really couldn't care less, because personally I have far too much work to do to be bothered with it.
     
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    dirtisbetter Peon

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    #16
    Maybe, but if the intent was to honestly help him, then it could have been done through PM. His behavior has been classified as childish in this thread, but isn't it a sign of immaturity to criticize others in a condescending manner in public? If IloveWriting wanted to sincerely help someone, she would have written to him in a PM. If that was the goal, which she clearly states it was, then why are you now saying that she was right to call him out because he is "blantantly [sic] falsely advertising" in his post?

    If your goal, which I've seen you state over and over in these boards is to help new writers obtain the highest amount possible for their writing, how is discussing their shortcomings in public the right approach? Flaunting your own superiority by saying that your pieces were "great" and "didn't require editing at all" (ILoveWriting) and that you have "too much work to do" to be bothered is condescending. It seems to be a counterproductive attitude to take if you truly want to help someone.
     
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  17. jhmattern

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    #17
    Criticizing them personally without provocation? Yes. Suggesting they "employ a better pitch" didn't warrant an attack. It's professional advice, and GOOD advice, and yes, it should have been said publicly, as the claims lure in a lot of people who honestly don't know any better. And as I already said, if he would have posted in the correct forum, it would be another matter entirely. He posted in a forum based on actual writing, and not offering a service.

    The original response wasn't discussing shortcomings; it was simply stating a fact and making a suggestion to fix it. The appropriate response for a writer wanting to be taken even remotely seriously would be to simply ask where the errors were if they honestly couldn't tell that for themselves, and then to fix them so that they're not making false claims.

    You should know that quoting someone else isn't making a personal claim of superiority. She was sharing an experience as a professional who's worked in various areas of the publishing industry for years. Any newer writer should be grateful that they have her and others as a resource, and take comments in a professional sense as a learning experience. Your work will always be criticized as a writer (all of us), and if you can't take it and improve from it, then you don't belong in the profession.

    As for having "too much work to do", that was regarding the fact that I don't have time to put up with petty insults and the defense of them from people who don't care enough about their work to learn, when there are plenty of others who do. I'm not here to make "friends" in a personal sense. I'm here to help out some people, and to learn from others. I'll always call it how I see it, and I honestly don't care if it bothers some people. They'll learn to appreciate the blunt honesty, or they'll hate me for it, and that's fine either way. A "condescending" attitude is when you tout your work as "perfect," especially when it's not. No one alive is perfect; not in their writing or any other manner. Every one of us makes mistakes, and we'll always be called out on them at some point or another. You either learn from the experience, or you don't. You don't assume perfection in your work, and then freak out when someone suggests you find another way to promote yourself. If either of us really wanted to be nothing but insulting, we would have posted a list of each error in the samples. We didn't do that for good reason. Helping someone and hand-holding aren't the same thing. Sugarcoating things rarely is the way to go in a professional sense, and as far as I'm concerned honesty is the best policy, even if people don't particularly want to hear it.
     
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  18. DeniseJ

    DeniseJ Live, Laugh, Love

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    #18
    I have to agree with Jenn. I didn't reply to this thread at first, because the op was so offended by constructive criticism I figured I'd just send him a private message stating my opinion. Well, he never deigned to respond and I notice that everyone has jumped on the "attack Jenn" bandwagon.

    Look, Jenn is a highly respected professional in her respective field, and she knows what she's talking about. She honestly tries to help newer writers improve their skills and earn what they are worth, and all of us involved in her challenge and forum try to emulate those very same qualities Jenn embodies.

    You can love them or you can hate them, but neither Sheri nor Jenn were trying to personally attack the op here. If you want to be taken seriously as a professional writer, then you need to be able to take constructive criticism -- period -- or you are in the wrong profession. I am grateful to Jenn and Sheri for their contributions to the industry and their willingness to help other writers, even when those writers are beyond their help.
     
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    marketjunction Well-Known Member

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    #19
    I just wanted to chime in to say that the grammar in the samples isn't perfect.

    As to writing quality and price, I couldn't care less. I just don't care for people who make outlandish claims. Rather than perfect, say great or good or masterful or whatever. Perfect is fraudulent.

    Oh, saying something is 100% unique is redundant.

    Carry on.
     
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  20. aletheides

    aletheides Banned

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    #20
    Jhmattern, you keep saying you don't have enough time (which is music to my ears), but you always suprise me with a bad novel I've already read before.

    Denise, when your opinion is the same as the rest of the Writer's Mafia, I won't give you the time of day.

    Finally, marketjunction, your entire post is redundant, and I'm not even sure why you posted. Did one of the girls tell you to? What a guy.

    Carry on. ;)
     
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