Cross-linking between sites from the same IP

Many web design firms or total solution providers place a "site designed by" tag at the bottom of the pages they build, and often their clients are all hosted on the same server as the designer. Google doesn't care about your IP address.

 

Again I could only go by my experience and I know of one niche where people are cross linking with my sites as I am with theirs on the same IP and there is no adverse affect in regards to SERPS. But that said the scale is small and not likely to raise any red flags.

I am not a believer in this needing seperate IP's for "SEO Hosting" thing personally as all I see is speculation and the more I look at and think about the aspects the more it doesn't reallly make a whole lot of sense tbh (at least that's my opinion and going by the experiences I have had, it might be proved wrong).

 

Funny I thought about that as I was posting my last post

Reminded me of a post by Yoast about GoDaddy's spammy footer links as he callled them.

 

I don't thin so. Because then, in theory, every website has to be on a dedicated server.

 

Having site in the same IP has no bad effects, However, got a link from different class C IP is a plus, especially from 'clean/reputed/authority' IP.
I own a server and use one IP (individual / non public) for few of my sites and another IP exclusively for my blog.
Blog with exclusive IP seems to get more attention from search engine. I'm not an expert in SEO so may assumption could be wrong.

I'm planning to buy additional IP for sites and use it exclusively in future.

ARICK.

Edit: The comments in this threads were quite helpful. I like it

 

But could that activity be just people finding the site from more commonly used search terms Arick?

I am sure you have some stats that can tell you some good info which can help you tell if the IP really makes any difference or not.

It's always interesting to see others experiences and see what is myth and what rumours can be proved or dispelled by people comparing their info on matters.

 

Traffic and indexing were affected by many factors. I guess you were right. Maybe it is because people finding the site from more commonly used search terms or other reasons.

I think getting a link from a blog/website from different IP but in similar niche is not a bad idea.

ARICK.

 

I had no doubt that IP has no impact, unless it is blacklisted. IP plays GEO role for sure.
I was approached by SEO firm asking to place some links on my website (for $ of course). Later they approach me again asking if I have another websites to place the same links, but these should be on a different class C IP. That triggered this question if that really matters. I found many articles, posts stating it is matters. There are many SEO Web hostings offering - "Largest C Class IP hosting ...."

All that triggered this question if IP Class C really matters when building links.
For sure none of us can give 100% accurate answer, only Google, but may be people from their own experience figured this out.

 

I think this c class cross linking myth arises from those selling links

This selling of links is not in line with Google TOS

This then leads to those selling links needing to have different IP addresses in order to help disguise their networks

that's my take on what this is all about when it comes to so called "SEO Hositng" and the c class IP addresses needs thing.

Which then means it is a "black hat" tehnique for those doing things Google might make squishies of them for

 

I don't think selling links is against TOC. It is not only selling links. This is advertisement, especially if it comes from related sites.
Many websites doing that to cover their expenses and produce some income.
The firm is very reputative and links pointing to very popular websites, that is why I paid attention to this kind of question.

 

Did you pop off to Mars or something?

I mean what planet are you on, everyone knows Google likes people to report such things.

This is exactly why people use such things to try and hide. Take a look at what Matt Cutts says > http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/how-to-report-paid-links/

PLus advertisement is Google's game after all, so where you might draw a line, Google might have a different view. Hence why people use this different c class IP thing to help hide such activity.

I might add these are Google's set of rules I am pointing out here not mine.

 

- reading your post I feel like yes I'm visiting here.

As I pointed there is nothing wrong I'm doing. I have many websites and all related, very related, covering different places. My links from one to another are 100% natural. This is what doing every normal BIG website. Take as example newyork.craigslist.org, and you will find on the right links other subdomains, covering other cities. Or take ottawagasprices.com and you will find links to their other website for other cities. My case is exactly the same.
Now, about paid links, nothing wrong there. My pages have only few extarnal links and this is nothing wrong.
You will find here on DP also paid links (ads), and same advertisers for sure paying on other forums, which eventually have different class C IPs. Does it makes them against Google TOCs?
And how about kijiji which allows you to put link as part of classified ad for only $4 a month? And people placed ads for several cities - does that makes kijiji selling links against Google TOCs?

The example from the Matt Cutts wesbite clearly shows what he refers to the pages full of non related links.

BTW, looking on both your links, which you advertise in your signature, the page actually has many irrelevant links pointing to irrelevant sites. Your page is SEO forum, and what all these links (most not relevant to SEO) doing there pointing to different websites:


Web Hosting
Web Design
SEO Expert
Hire Cartoonist
Find Caricaturist
UK Directory
Expert SEO Services
Double T Ted's®
SEO Power Plays
HostTed The Host Ted
Cartoon Book
RentTed The Rent Ted



Should this be reported?

So, after all these examples I feel now down to earth, 100% complaint with TOCs.
Now, back to my original question.

 

A lot of this situation has to do with your intent. Google always wants what is best for the person searching on their search engine as should you.

If you are just trying to interlink websites that your own to try to trick or fool Google, you might have a better chance trying to trick god. Google spends millions of dollars making sure that is near impossible. On the other hand have several quality pieces of content that you think are OF VALUE to visitors of each individual site than it is perfectly okay to do so.

The problem I see happening here is that you are far to worried about Google instead of your customers. Far to often I see this scenario play out and all it turns into is your site gaining a little more traffic for short period of time and a significantly higher bounce rate. So just keep in mind that it is always in your best interest to serve up content that your visitors are interested in.

In the end think that 1 customer is always better than 100 visitors, because that customer took action.

 

None are paid links and though you don't know it all are related but not obviously as in what you may mena by "related" as in just the words. But it's "paid links" people are asked to report anyhow not links which are possibly to a viewer unrelated to their way of thinking.

This still doens't change the fact that the c class SEO hosting thing is being done in order to hide linking structures

btw Dirty trick to pull some of my words on from a site to another for no reason - I will return the favour sometime

 

- not sure where this coming from?
SEO is all about making maximum out of you site, not just content for visitors, but also tuning for SE.
It is same as you trying to utilize your title, h1, and use keywords, and at the same time make sure your content is good, readable and natural.
My point is if I have links between my websites, which are 100% natural, fitting content, and if I can get more from the fact if these will be from different class C IPs - why not?
Yes, I will not argue that 1 subscriber better than 100 visitors, but from other side from 0 visitors you get 0 subscribers.
I raised my original question not to get judged how bad I am. Each of you will do, or doing the same, just you know you have good intent, why to judge others when they doing the same assuming their intent is bad.
All I wanted to figure out if I have option of having links between my websites, which will work the best, will making them from different IPs or different class C IP bring bigger positive impact on ranking, assuming I have them anyways?
Please keep in mind, I'm not asking should I link from one to another, because that is irrelevant, I have them linked for 6 years.

 

Paid links are not eval, and there is nothing wrong. People pay for advertisement, that is it. What google wants to prevent is a sites that only selling links, same way as sites that only have links, even they free.

If Google was penalizing every website that has paid ads on it (link is ad), than kijiji, amazon, ebay , many news site, simply were gone. Kijiji offers advertisement on their pages offering weekly and monthly packages, and as far as I know they doing well on google.

Simply try to understand what you reading. It is not all black and white.

 

Why are you getting so defensive just because I have said the c class SEO hosting thing is done in order to hide linking structures of paid links ?

And I could also sya the same to you about not all black and white as you point to my things as tohough things are not relevant. So to you cartoons and SEO are not relevant to each other. But to me they are as SEO using cartoons is one of the things I do.

Your way of thinking to relevance is like a like to a dedicated server on a page about cheap hositng is relavent because it is hosting. However it is not that black and white if you get my drift as we can say a dedicted server is in no way relevant to cheap hosting, do you see what I mean?

Still strange you are getting so defensive just because the reasons for this c class hosting things are pointed out as being in order to hide paid link networks.

Bear in mind my mention earlier in the thread these are Google's rules not mine.

 

And I think "1 satisfy reader is always better than a million of bots, Because that reader give me more reasons to write new article again and again... while Million of bots will slowing down the server". I love bots but not the bad bots. (from author's point of view, I'm not businessman - just a local writer).

I have visited the site and it was so funny. I mean it has good image. I remember shoemoney used cute cartoons to attract more visitors and 'brand' the articles. I like the image. As visitor, I found the website has useful information and I really like it.

Same with me. I have multiple sites in single IP with same topic. I do links from each one to another. Traffic is good and got no problem at all.

Hear the same story as well. I thought Revelations-Decoder could be right. Different Class C IP may have no effect. I began thinking link from same IP is just like "Getting an apple from the same country". IP from different country is just like "Getting an apple from foreign country".

Now, it is not about where the apple from but has more complex situation.

1. Rotten apple is not good but delicious apple is awesome. (Link from high pagerank blog is preferred than low authority blog)
2. Get an apple in a package (parcel) is good than receive it 'as is'.
   (DoFollow is better than NoFollow, Link with bigger font MAYBE better than Smaller Font.)
3. Transportation. Apple which transported by well known company (such as FedEx,etc) has more value. (Server / IP known to host various threat has low authority - even if the website has no viruses ## Stable server/site is better than under powered server/site)

I know it is dumb to compare links from same or different IP with an Apple. What I'm trying to say is, different or same IP always has an impact to the website. But it depend on various factors already specified above (and specified in another post by different author too). I'm now thinking same or different IP doesn't matter again. Three points above are more important.

Last, I'm not an expert, so it is better not to use my words. But if you believe it, well, it wouldn't hurt you at all.

ARICK.
Just another new member.
Edit: Writing this comment require couple of minutes and it seems there are already more conversations. I hope this comment still 'helpful' and discuss the same topic as well.

 

There are too many factors involved, for example if those are all the links you have pointed to your site or those are just fraction of the whole package. There are some SEO hosting out there that would provide you with different C class IPs , you might want to consider them.

 

In general Google is really looking at huge link networks, whether or not they look at the IP address of every site that links to each other and uses that as a consideration would be pure speculation.. but I would move them onto their own IP's if they're interlinking each other for the sole purpose of ranking better.