So if the main factor is CTR and that can bring the eCPM's as low as 0.01 or lower what it sounds like is you guys are not a CPM network but a performance based network. Be it CPC, CPA, CPL, CPI, etc. But there is no way that on a real CPM network you are going to get variations from $0.01 - $2.50. So to market your self as a CPM Network seems wrong. Surly you can compile the stats then say "This is the eCPM you earned" but that doesn't make you a CPM network that just puts the numbers into a standard model for people to be able to track earnings and performance. Also why is there a maximum if you guys are a performance based network? For example there is someone (whom I am not going to name) in this thread who does $7.00+ eCPM's with us on one of our private performance programs. If the CTR jumps up that could easily double or tripple and theres no cap as to what the max is. Also someone made a good point as far as the IP stuff, you made a great point your self - No one wants bot traffic. 1,500 impressions is no where near enough impressions to determine if someone is using a bot. The real way to determine if someone is using a bot is if they go from 50 impressions per day to 500,000 and show no signs of user engagement, no signs of any social activity, and show no proof of the actual traffic source. I'm not an expert in mobile ip routing but like someone said above (and to the best of my knowledge) most mobile phones depending on where you are - will route to the same towers and IP's for a region. There are also these things called browser proxies which people use to browse the internet and it shows traffic from the server that the proxy site is on and not from the actual person browsing. Also how do you know its coming from a proxy server and not someone who comes back to a website to view content several times in a day, or even the webmaster working on changes to the site? Just so you know - 1,500 impressions even with 1 click is a 0.07% CTR; which to claim that if people have under that the traffic is fake is completely wrong. Some could get a click at 1,895 Impressions which would be considered fake to you but they still technically maintain a 0.05% CTR. Also why does CPMGO load on every ad? every impression I saw CPMGO loading ads. You guys Arbitraging from them?
Hi wrekoniz3, I do not think you really understand the criteria by which we operate. "Just so you know - 1,500 impressions even with 1 click is a 0.07% CTR; which to claim that if people have under that the traffic is fake is completely wrong. Some could get a click at 1,895 Impressions which would be considered fake to you but they still technically maintain a 0.05% CTR." Yes, I know, but the probability that a publisher to generate hundreds of thousands of impressions without even have a click and his traffic to be true ... it is very very small. Before considering the traffic sent by the publisher to be fake, we check its websites, some IPs, traffic sources, etc... "Also why does CPMGO load on every ad? every impression I saw CPMGO loading ads. You guys Arbitraging from them?" When we can not deliver ads to visitors, we use various alternatives for 100% fill rate. All the best, Joanna
The ads displaying slowly is getting worse.. When I first tested a few days ago they took maybe 2-3 seconds (Which was bad) to actually show the adverts.. now its more like 10secs to actually see the adverts. People would have left the webpage even before you can display the advert.
Yes, we know... But we work to fix this problems... Are some problems with the servers Once we fix all the problems, we'll increase the eCPM rate for all publishers.
Hi lover1, No, you can't... You can use Sticky Ad with any other size of the banner except 300x250. Or you can use 300x250 with any other size of the banner except Sticky Ad. All the best, Joanna
I think you might want to look seriously into your problem slowness/overloading/bad programming/whatever the problem is... I presume you/other people who can read waterfalls can see the problem.....
Thats probably cause they couldn't deliver ads so if you see happens - CPMGO is using clicksor and cpmors is using CPMGO so you are getting a revshare (%) on 1/3rd what you should... @CMPOrs I dont think you understand the criteria by which you operate actually. No one said anything about "hundreds of thousands of impressions" you said if someone sends 1,500 impressions with no clicks you consider them as sending fraud - and I am stating that mathematically even if someone got 1,859 impressions with no clicks but then at 1,860 impressions they finally got a click - its still going to be a 0.05% CTR and up. So if someone send hundreds of thousands of impressions with no clicks and you suspect them of fraud - that would make more sense than 1,500. Also you must not have a lot of ads - cause I'm clearly not the only one who sees CPMGO loading every impression - whats funny is someone actually pointed it out to me and it didn't change. To make it worse they are using clicksor. lol Horrible.
If they are looking for clicks they should take out the CPM on their name and change to CPCors.com These guys are fools, they banned my buddy cause according to them he got only 25 clicks for 100k impressions. And they said it was a fraud traffic. My buddy put their banner below the other ads so its clearly not a good spot for banner. But still they dont consider it. They want lot of clicks.
They can't get clicks if adverts takes 10+ seconds to show and people can't see them before they go someplace else on the webpage/website. The example one I showed about took 15 seconds to show for example. CPMors...can you comment on this? Can this be fixed?
See and thats my point because yeah even though the clicks seem low - its a 0.03% CTR which doesn't mean its fake at all. But based off what they said above they expect a click every 1,500 Impressions which would mean you need to maintain a 0.07% CTR which a lot of sites are unable to do - especially if the ads are arbitraged from other networks. But - the fact we are talking about clicks = performance which means to follow up on your point - Its not CPM its performance (CPC, CPL, CPA, etc). How many times do you refresh and see the same CPMGO creatives loading? Everytime?
Hi all, Thank you very much for your attention... I'll try to give a comprehensive answer for everyone. Firstly, the usage of the CPMOrs platform is a privilege not a right. We do not accept PTP sites and other types of sites listed in our TOS... Must clearly specify that an IP (1 ip) cannot generate over 1500 impressions in a very short time and wrekoniz3, we do not want a click at every 1500 impressions, I expect to be pretty clear, but I will say you one example: X is our publisher and X send us 30.000 impressions without clicks or with 1-2 clicks... but these impressions are generated by 20-30 uv... For us, this think is not normal and we don't accept this traffic quality... Do you understand? Do not you think we are right? Moreover, we do not delete our publishers (only in special cases), we disable and delete their places. We have the freedom to select our publishers. Secondly, we know that our website and ads are very slow sometimes but we work to fix that. It seems that we were not chosen good hosting provider. Starting next month we will have new servers, another platform and are convinced that many of problems will disappear. Thank you very much, Joanna
Hi langau, When we can not deliver ads to visitors, we use various alternatives for 100% fill rate. CPMGo or other ad networks are used only when we can not deliver ads, is very simple. We also collaborate with other partners, other networks and other systems to provide the diversity for all your traffic. Do not forget that we are a new advertising network and I'm sure you can understand this. All the best, Joanna
Thanks for the answer. Cpmgo is using clicksor ads. you should use clicksor rather than cpmgo, it will give better rates.
"There were people in our system that send us over 1500 impressions from one IP (proxy server) without clicks. We do not tolerate fake traffic." I can easily give you 1500+ impressions from 1 ip address but really they are coming from over 150000 unique users and it is not cheating at all. Its just the IP Address they are coming from. User != IP Address Let me repeat, you cannot count on a single ip address to be a single user. A lot of ISPs use Carrier Grade NAT for its users on broadband or mobile networks due to the shortage of IP Addresses so multi users are NATTED out of a group of IP Addresses and this happens all the time these days. Set a cookie or alike which can then identify its a unique user and then base your fraud detection on that + lots of other ways of factors, but just because you got a lot of impressions from the same ip address and saying that its fraud is wrong.
With pleasure langau Ok LennonNZ, I understand but for the moment we not change our perspective. Have a nice day, Joanna
Hi Joanna. Problem with your website and advertising remains. When you solve a problem loading your site and advertising?
Hi lover1, Huh... Starting Tuesday we'll have new servers and all problems will be solved. We'll keep you informed and let you know when everything will work perfectly. I'm so sorry... Joanna