Cpalead scam or how they stole my $12000

I love watching two lots of crimminals trying to prove who's more of a crook than the other. It's some how very entertaining.

That's wrong because tracking101.com is owned by affiliate.com which is owned by Media Breakaway, LLC which is based in Westminster, CO. So does anybody really know their knew tracking domain or is this just made up bullshit?

 

You're right, tracking101.com is owned by affiliate.com.. But if you had been more attentive, you would have noticed that I'm talking about tracking1o1.com . o - is not a zero

 

Sneaky, I like it!

 

so who exactly are you calling a criminal? Please, be specific.

According to CPALead's terms and conditions:
1.1.2. Ineligible Websites. Web sites that do not feature customer-friendly site navigation or contain content (including pornographic or hateful content) that CPAlead, in its sole discretion, determines does not meet an acceptable commercial or aesthetic standard are not eligible for membership. If CPAlead, in the exercise of reasonable discretion, determines your web site to be ineligible, all commissions, whether earned or unearned, shall be forfeit.

This means that at any point in your relationship with CPALead, if they dont like the layout, navigation, etc of your site (completely technical details having nothing to do with the nature of your actual content) That they can, with their discretion, shut down your campaign and seize any unpaid commissions.

3.2. CPAlead Records to Control. CPAlead maintains records of all traffic passing over the Affiliate Program. CPAlead's records shall govern all interpretations made under this Agreement, including but not limited to the calculation of Commissions.

Ths means that CPALeads records of traffic passing over your site would be considered more accurate than records from your ISP/Hosting service. With a CTO at the helm that has been accused of fraud and violating the computer fraud and abuse act, i wouldnt trust CPALeads traffic records one bit

4.1. Ownership and Proprietary Nature of Data and Reports. All data, including but not limited to campaign results, user data, statistical information, traffic analysis or other data produced or provided by you, shall be deemed to be the property of CPAlead.

This means that basically you are handing over your entire user base to CPALead so they can solicit them with ads.

5.2.2. Non-Competition. You shall not, during the term of this Agreement and for three (3) months thereafter, implement any cost-per-action ("CPA") agreements with any Client with whom you did not have a previously existing CPA agreement.

This means that if you are not already working with another CPA network when you sign up for cpa lead, you may not participate in any other affiliate networks. It also states that if you stop working with CPA Lead, you will wait 3 months before signing up with another cpa firm.

THIS IS THE WORST PART:
6. Termination. This Agreement may be terminated by either of us at any time and for any reason or for no reason at all. Termination may be effected by delivery to the non-terminating party of appropriate notice, delivered via e-mail, fax or other means of public communication, and will be effective on the earlier of (i) receipt by the non-terminating party or (ii) three (3) business days following the sending of the termination notice.

This means, thats right, they can terminate you account for NO REASON AT ALL. They can terminate you simply for speaking your mind or exercising your rights and refusing to be shit on as an affiliate of cpalead. This means that they can suspend accounts for doing nothing wrong, while seizing their assets, and still be acting within their terms and conditions. This part of the agreement is the worst because it basically gives them the right to steal from you. Fortunately, most courts would see past this as it is an unreasonable demand you are making on your users. Just because you agreed to it in the Terms of Service doesnt make it legal. for instance, in cases where the terms and conditions clearly violate state or federal law, said terms can not be considered enforcable on the client. I think taking peoples hard earned money for no reason at all counts as stealing.

6.1. Responsibilities Following Termination. Immediately upon termination, you will (i) remove any and all Offers from any web site owned or operated by you and/or (ii) suspend any e-mail campaign that has not already been sent. As a precondition to receiving any earned but unpaid compensation you will certify to us, via e-mail, that this condition has been met within two (2) business days following termination.

I guess this conditon was totally forgot about because now they just freeze accounts and sieze their earnings. Also, it helps if you actually notify publishers of their suspensions via email rather than just locking out their logins. I have a friend whos account has been suspended since December 21st but still has not recieved an email stating that his account has been frozen.

3.4. Suspension of Payment. If CPAlead determines, in the exercise of its reasonable business judgment, that you are in breach of any material term of this Agreement, CPAlead will (i) use commercially reasonable best efforts to notify you promptly of such breach and (ii) suspend any payment of any earned but unpaid Commissions until such breach has been cured.

Right, thats why someone suspended on December 21st still hasnt recieved a notice via email that his account was suspended. And additionally, despite sending an appeal to the termination, still has recieved no response from CPALead

I could do this all day....either change your terms or actually live by them.

 

Why do you even give a crap about this network?

 

I have my interests, just as you have yours.....by your logic, just cause it wasnt my 12k means i shouldnt care right?

as English philosopher Edmund Burke said, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing.’

why cant you answer a simple question about who you are calling a criminal?

 

Hmm, all we have to do to see ur legit is spend our money to fly out to vegas to come to your party, man i cant wait to drop 1k just to come visit and see you be as polite in real life as you are on your Instant Messenger.

About this reform process? your right robert, it is never mentioned....it is not mentioned here, outside of your post, or even in your companies terms and conditions. If i have misread the terms and conditions and this clause is indeed present, please be so kind as to point it out to me. Otherwise, i believe this reform process you describe to be a figment of your imagination since that seems to be the only place any reference to it exists.

 

You're seriously boring. Plus the fact nobody knows who you are, means your wasting your time.

 

really, just because you say im boring, everything goes away....get over yourself

obviously since nobody knows who i am that means that facts and evidence carry no weight or merit in this argument. obviously since you have such a high post count, you must be a highly regarded and respected member of this community. Hopefully they are lucky enough to have every one of your 2000+ posts be as of the high quality content such as the one im quoting.

Do you want to keep bickering or answer the quesiton of who you called a criminal, and remember, please be as specific as possible when calling people criminals so they can sue your happy ass for libel. The alternative is that you stop trying to flame me off this board and we each go our own merry way.

 

You should stop posting, before you look like a total retard and get laughed off this forum.

 

seeing as how you are the only one flaming me, i doubt it. I have found that people are willing to listen to truth and reason when it is presented to them in an upfront logical manner. You seem to be the person who thinks that post count = trust.

I would rather let the forum memebers decide that they dont want to hear this rather than you acting as a 'representative' of this board and telling me to keep quiet about the information i have.

Remember dude, you are the one who keeps choosing to come here and read this thread, nobody is forcing you too. You are doing this because you want to. Now im guessing you will go get all ur buddies to come flame me after nobody but you did in the first 72 hours this info was posted

 

Because for all the other members of this forum know (including myself), you could be another content locking network just trying to add more fuel to the fire. Because of that and the fact you signed up just to bash this company, plus you won't explain why you're bashing them leaves me very suspicious.

 

Hey Seqqa and brownChickenBrownCow go to private messages and continue your fight not in a public

 

Ok i guess its disclosure time....didnt know i had to explicitly state it but ok here it goes....

I am a private citizen, i do not own or operate or work (on payroll) for any CPA/Affiliate network. I dont know exactly how you expect me to prove this but im open for suggestions.

I currently have an active CPALead account that is open and receiving payments on schedule (net15). All my methods are whitehat (no shades of gray, my shit is legit). I will not disclose my email or affiliate id or site url as i am fearful that my account will be banned.

I do know DWCicarus, the person who posted the Facebook suit info on CPALead official forums. I am not DWCicarus. He is a friend of mine that I brought in to the CPA network to basically be my protege. While my account remains open and active, DWCicarus has had two accounts suspended and a total of 3600$ seized by CPALead. No, he did not have two active accounts at the same time. The first one had 1400 and was suspened and the second he opened after being told to file an appeal on the first. They closed that account when he had accumulated 2200. Since DWCicarus has two outstanding appeals with CPALead, he has chosen to not participate in these discsssion as he feels it could negatively impact the outcome of his appeals.

Hence, the source of my beef with CPALead, I am whiteknighting for a friend who is too scared to stand up for himself. Maybe to you that means he doesnt deserve my help but then to me, that means you are a heartless human being with no compassion for his fellow man

Edited to remove everything but my disclosure statement

 

sry man, this wasnt posted when i replied, since it was a disclosure, i think its better it was public....any further issues with him will be addressed via PM. sorry

 

I don't have a story, I just got annoyed that a CPA network was robbing thousands from people. Then I spoke to Robert who told me their side of the story. But to be honest I haven't got a clue who to believe, but I do believe it's weird that people would sign up to a forum and bash a company in such detail and have no reason for doing it. But if your story is true then fair play, but why all the sneaky sneaky stuff?

I'm slap bam in the middle of where I stand in all this.

 

Understandable, sorry it got kind of personal (i have no problems with you and understand how a simple generalization about the two sides was blown out of proportion by me) but i can assure you, my story is true. The reason for the sneaky sneaky is the following: (per http://www.cpalead.com/terms.php)

6. Termination. This Agreement may be terminated by either of us at any time and for any reason or for no reason at all. Termination may be effected by delivery to the non-terminating party of appropriate notice, delivered via e-mail, fax or other means of public communication, and will be effective on the earlier of (i) receipt by the non-terminating party or (ii) three (3) business days following the sending of the termination notice.

My active account is net 15, this means that i earn more than 1000 per month from CpaLead. I do not want to get my account suspended simply fo speaking my mind and my opinions on unfair business practices and corruption amongst their senior staff. Surely posting this information could be considered grounds for termination of my active account under the basis of "and for any reason or for no reason at all."

 

If you don't like them or you and a friend have a problem with them, why put up with it? There not the only players around. There's Blam Ads and LeadBolt and a few others that are starting to pick up now.

If you want respect go to Blam Ads because I know for a fact that Ryan Eagle respects affiliates.

 

Neither DWCIcarus nor myself can apply to work with another cpa network per the terms and conditions of our agreements with CPALead. I have an active account so i cant and DWCicarus has applied for another account so until that is approved or rejected, he cant either. Doing so would violate the terms and conditions and provide a legitimate excuse for CPALead to terminate me. We both started out on CPALead so there were no preexisitng agreements

Per section 5.2.2 of their T&C at http://www.cpalead.com/terms.php

5.2.2. Non-Competition. You shall not, during the term of this Agreement and for three (3) months thereafter, implement any cost-per-action ("CPA") agreements with any Client with whom you did not have a previously existing CPA agreement.

 

how about you pull your tongue out of cpa leads ass and go troll some place else. your clearly misguided. BCBC has got a point. It wouldnt surprise me if this is a cpa lead staff member on another account.

Your a fool.