Cpalead scam or how they stole my $12000

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by raisarus, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. Jac

    Jac Peon

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    #201
    gotta love that picture
     
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  2. rajalakshmip

    rajalakshmip Well-Known Member

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    #202

    All of us know, Robert and Cpalead staff answer only to positive questions...

    Please stop spamming forums. If you want to spread the word, you create your own forums and ask people to post their screen shots over there
     
    rajalakshmip, Dec 20, 2010 IP
  3. br3adman

    br3adman Active Member

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    #203
    I read the whole thread the chat logs everything. I don't think $10,000 is a fair settlement think of all the time and trouble this valued publisher went threw to recover his loss that was in the end decided not fraudulent.He should have been paid $12,000 for his earnings plus what it cost to advertise on Google and for his time and mental anguish. I still think you should bring them to court and get whats rightfully yours. I'm positive any judge will see the facts outlined and rule in favor of raisarus. I mean cpalead admits they banned the guy wrongfully and accepts guilt.


    mental anguish n. mental suffering which includes fright, feelings of distress, anxiety, depression, grief and/or psychosomatic physical symptoms. It is distinguished from physical pain due to an injury, but it may be considered in awarding damages for physical injury due to a defendant's negligence or intentionally inflicting harm.
     
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  4. brownChickenBrownCow

    brownChickenBrownCow Peon

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    #204
    so you really had to go through all that just to get the 'good faith negotiations' which you are entitled to under their terms and conditions?
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    brownChickenBrownCow, Dec 31, 2010 IP
  5. brownChickenBrownCow

    brownChickenBrownCow Peon

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    #205
    thanks for posting this....

    funny you're all up on your high horse eh?

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    the whole filing is available online @
    http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/california/candce/5:2010cv04711/233083/1/
     
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  6. sid1sid1

    sid1sid1 Peon

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    #206
    Except, allegedly, CPALead was fully aware of, and passively encouraged his behavior (how could it not - it was making $$$) even when it KNEW about the deceptive & fraudulent practices of Jason Swan. Allegedly.

    Misleading is one thing, but creating FAKE profiles, FAKE applications and creating a totally new FAKE product ("Dislike button" - wow) totally crosses the line.

    If I were facebook, I would totally sue your ass as well as you were the equal partner in crime.

    Oh the hypocrisy - allowing your own CTO to create FAKE products mimicking a multi-billion dollar brand, but terminating your publishers' accounts (and conveniently keeping the money owed) because they have "fake content." LOL, allegedly.

    Can't believe affiliates still fall for your bullshit. You should have your business license revoked/suspended for deceptive business practices and fraud among other things:

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    On the bright side of things, looks like CPALead is already on it's way to death:

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  7. brownChickenBrownCow

    brownChickenBrownCow Peon

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    #207
    The fact that they allow their own compaines associates to also act as network affiliates is ridiculous. As a CTO, Jason Swan should have never been allowed to participate in the affiliate program due to the extreme conflict of interest it could/and did 'allegedly' cause

    I think it would be interesting and transparent for CPALead to disclose how much its actual employees have made via the affiliate program and via JV's. I am not asking for their actual hourly pay or salary, just a simple number that represents what they have all made as affiliates. I would be willing to bet that barely anybody/nobody makes more than the actual cpalead employees on their network.

    Chances are CPA Lead company property or hardware were used in his scams at some point. This goes beyond an individual issue and now involves the company. Since CPA Lead represents all of the affiliates that participate in its network, this series of events will serve no greater purpose other than to dilute the CPA Lead name in the ad industry, having quite a negative impact on its affiliates. They will be lucky if all the affiliates dont team up and sue for making us all look like shit for promoting CPA Leads offers.

    Additionally, if Jason was fully cooperating with Facebook and this was nothing more than a misunderstanding, Facebooks legal team would have never requested for this case to be transferred from under a magistrate where it would go to ADR (alternative dispute resolution - mediation) to a US District Judge with a Jury Trial. Normally this means that the defendent did not provide a sufficient response for Facebook to believe he is 'cooperating' otherwise, a mediation should have been able to resolve this.

    Im actually really glad peope here at DP are smart enough to see what is going on.....shit, CPA Lead associates made fake profiles all over this site, right.?
     
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  8. jasoneswan

    jasoneswan Member

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    #208
    As I have explained on another thread about our Alexa ranking, we have changed out our tracking links and widget links to no longer serve from the cpalead.com domain. Our cpalead.com ranking is going to just display traffic thats going to our home page and not necessarily our widget traffic anymore. Alexa is certainly is not an indicator of our network healthiness as you suggest.
     
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  9. jasoneswan

    jasoneswan Member

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    #209
    Yes and the keyword here is allegedly, and until proven otherwise, you are just attempting to slander mine and CPAlead's name.

    I could spend $350 to e-file a lawsuit against you too, doesn't mean that what I allege is at all truthful.
     
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  11. brownChickenBrownCow

    brownChickenBrownCow Peon

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    #211
    Jason, you are totally right, you could file a suit against him and allege any crazy thing you want. The difference is that your suit would be thrown out of court based on merit. Facebooks case was not dismissed by the presiding judge in such a manner so obviously there is some merit and fact to the allegations against you. Why do you lash out at him instead of responding to the allegations?
     
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  12. jeo smith

    jeo smith Peon

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    #212
    you got your money ?
     
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  13. jeo smith

    jeo smith Peon

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    #213
    i hope you get it
     
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  14. sid1sid1

    sid1sid1 Peon

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    #214
    That's what people do, when they don't have a leg to stand on. IF facebook's charges against him were indeed false, he would be rabidly proclaiming his innocence, but he won't because he knows that that won't do any good.

    Much easier for personal attacks than actually conjure up a logically sound argument, ya know? Ad hominem, indeed.
     
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  15. HagakureSamurai

    HagakureSamurai Greenhorn

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    #215
    wow he got exposed lol guess u never know whos whos espectially with these fake accounts all over, anyways i know cpa lead a long time and i wish you luck
     
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  16. brownChickenBrownCow

    brownChickenBrownCow Peon

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    #216
    funny.....they even deleted an entire thread about this off of their official forum after banning the user who posted it

    I saw this on there a week ago and when i saw it got deleted, i figured i would post is somewhere safe...dude was even pretty nice in his post, nicer than i would have been at least

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    One could not say that it is a stretch to imply that CPALead knew about his actions. In the suit, it clearly states his position within CPALead as CTO and an affiliate and states they have evidence that he used servers 'under his control' (as CTO of CPALead) to carry out his scam. Chances are he is only CTO so everyone else at the company can deny any existence of wrongdoing (Being a CTO of a corprate system is like being God, the buck stops with you. Everyone is going to say they had no idea what was going on and it was actually Jason's job to prevent things like this from happening, when in reality he should have had substantial oversight and technically not even be allowed to participate in the affiliate program.)

    Chances are, upon a guilty verdit of Jason Swan, CPA Lead will not be forced to pay a single penny or do anything as a result. However, if facebooks legal team can prove a cooperative link between CPALead staff, company assets, and Jasons' activities, they could be in some hot water.

    Personally, I am suprised that Jason is still acting as CTO of CPA Lead. In most corporations, when you have been accused of major crimes like he has, you are forced on to administrative suspension, with or without pay. Personally, i cant think of a single CTO other than Jason Swan that has been accused of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act that has not been placed on suspension for the duration of the legal challenge. Clearly CPALeads decision to remain inactive in light of these allegations speaks for itself. They are willing to instantly and without consideration ban publishers, but when it is one of their own that is the accused, they allow him to keep his job and keep his position as an affiliate within their network. If thats not fairness and transparency, i dont know what is:)

    Stating that someone has committed slander against you means that they are implying things that are not factually correct. sid clearly has some issues with his own ethics and i wish he wouldnt have contributed as now the issue is being distracted away from CPALead, Jason Swan and their nefarious business practices and on to sid's moral character. You will notice that Jason responded only to sid and chose to completely ignore and not respond to anything else going on around him.
     
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  17. bqpennell

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    #217
    I been member of cpalead since august only make 1200+ a month but i have been paid every time, they are not a scam network,

    its simple if you made 12k and they banned you im sure you broke some rules, kinda like a fool who made 14k one day then asked in chat if we was aloud to complete our own offers lol

    im about to receive my 5th payment from cpalead. the only thing cpa is guilty of is there stupid premium offers that require a widget, some of us choose not to throw a box in our users face and use banner links
     
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  18. brownChickenBrownCow

    brownChickenBrownCow Peon

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    #218
    i think you are missing the point. If you would have read the entire thread, you would see that the OP settled for 10k out of the 12k he earned awhile ago. The only two things that still seem to be out in the open are why it took so long (and so much trouble) for the OP to get the 'good faith negotiations' to which he is entitled under their terms and conditions and why they still havent responded to the allegations against their CTO. I dont think this is one of the payment proof threads they are encouraging and rewarding their users for posting in.

    I know many people who do get paid monthly from CPA Lead. That does not mean anything in terms of the current issues at hand

    *the following is strictly hypothetical
    say you were to operate an affiliate network similar to CPALead or Leadbolt, etc (not to accuse any of the previous companies of such actions but just to use as a point of reference for structure of my hypothetical network)
    You have 1000 users. Out of those 1000 users 500 make less than 100$ a month, 250 make inbetween 100$ and $500 per month and 250 make between $500 and 1000$ per month. You could pay everyone in the < 100 and 500-1000 brackets while stealing all the earnings from the 100-500 bracket and still be in the clear right? Just because 75% of your user base is reporting payments doesnt mean a thing about the fairness of their terms of service of the application of those terms in relation to their affiliates. You could make a ton seizing all the earnings of the 100-500 bracket and people would still be reporting payments, you would have small earners and big earners, just like most exisiting networks, right?
     
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  19. Jac

    Jac Peon

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    #219
    Bollocks!

    Your serving widgets from Adpath.mobi, if you look in alexa, its not even ranked in the top 100k so you sir are ful of shit!

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/adpath.mobi#

    It would seem that your traffic has taken a nose dive, and this widget swap thing is just an excuse to stop the spread of such talk.
     
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  20. 1one

    1one Active Member

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    #220
    I think they actually changed the tracking domain, it's now tracking1o1.com .. but traffic still not as in the past

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    1one, Jan 2, 2011 IP