Counting back link by google

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by tatvasoft, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. #1
    Hi,

    If you know which way google count back link from other site.

    I know something about it but I am not sure

    1) google count link from PR 4 or higher page.
    2) Releted site which closely related your website. (It is True? If true why?)
    3) From "link:domain name" and @domain name (What is a different between both of them which way it is count?)

    If you know please tell me

    Jitendra
    www.tatvasoft.com
     
    tatvasoft, Aug 24, 2005 IP
  2. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #2
    The google link: facility does not show you all the links that Google know about. They broke it a long time ago saying it now shows 'a selection of backlinks' . So you can forget getting a decent backlink screenshow from Google, it simply can no longer be done.

    In a nutshell, if the link is a standard spiderable HREF link, and the page is cached, then you are getting the benefit of that backlink.
     
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  3. North Carolina SEO

    North Carolina SEO Well-Known Member

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    #3
    This is why so many of us resort to using Yahoo! to cross check for backlinks using the string "linkdomain:www.yoursite.com -domain:www.yoursite.com" (without the quotes and replace yoursite.com).

    It doesn't show you Google results but, can show a general status of where you are regarding number of external inbound links to your site. :)
     
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  4. iqra_psh

    iqra_psh Active Member

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    #4
    I dont think so that google count Pr 4 link only if i check my sites back links in google it shows Pr 0 and Pr 3 sites while my sites have direct links from Pr5 and Pr6 sites as well.
     
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  5. sudhani

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    #5
    Yes. True. Google shows only a sample of links.

    Rest of the arguments are just a Myth.
     
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  6. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #6
    just to clarify why I used the phrase 'A selection of backlinks'. This was the phrase used be Matt Cutts at London SES, and your really not going to get a better source than that.
     
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  7. compar

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    #7
    Correct, and as far as anyone can see there is no discernable criteria for the selection they show, unless you consider "random" a criteria.
     
    compar, Aug 27, 2005 IP
  8. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #8
    any logic behind google doing it??
    or just another google's mad man step??
    or they just love to do things differently?
    what??
     
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  9. arounddelhi

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    #9
    Hi,
    Does that mean that one should not bother about exchanging links with websites below PR4. Also does the websites' PR matters or the PR of the page that is backlinking to you
     
    arounddelhi, Sep 1, 2005 IP
  10. webmaster

    webmaster Active Member

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    #10
    Hi,

    Yes link exchange will definately benefit you in long run but, only with the themed site. And if you get Backlink from good PR site is will help you in ranking quickly. But, if you get link with PR 0 site it will also help you and its effect on SERP will be very slow.

    In my opinion, always concious about the Page PR not the site's. As you are getting link from the page.
     
    webmaster, Sep 1, 2005 IP
  11. ajnin

    ajnin Well-Known Member

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    #11
    to get backlinks in google i ignor the use of link: and instead do the following searches

    http://www.mysite.com -site:mysite.com
    www.mysite.com -site:mysite.com
    mysite.com -site:mysite.com

    this seems to give me a pretty decent guess as to whats going on with google.

    also i use google alearts if i am really worried about it and jsue have google search for any new pages added that contain my domain name "mysite.com"

    http://www.google.com/alerts?hl=en

    hope someone finds that useful.
     
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  12. compar

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    #12
    I'm sure I'll get red rep for this, but your answer above is totally wrong and seriously misleading.

    1. What evidence have you got that only themed links are helpful? Many many knowledgable people still aren't sure about this.
    2. What do you mean by "help your ranking" are you talking PageRank or SERP placement. If you are talking PageRank then that's obvious. How else do you get PageRank except from backlinks and generally the greater the PR of the page linking the more PR transfered to your page.
    3. Most knowledgable people believe that PR has nothing to do with your SERP placement. It is anchor text that affects SERP placement and in that case it doesn't matter what the PR of the page was as long as the link had the appropriate anchor text.
    4. You are right about PageRank coming from a page, but your answer suggests that there is something call site PageRank. There isn't. PageRank is assigned to a page and has nothing to do with the site.
     
    compar, Sep 1, 2005 IP
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    directportrait Active Member

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    #13
    Yeah this is important, I keep reading about these guys that are interested in swapping links from their PR5 site... but the page they are talking about is a buried somewhere in the back PR0....doh
     
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  14. Charlatan

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    Some of my sub pages on my forum are a lot lower than the main bit, that must be it
     
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  15. Old Welsh Guy

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    Personally I really don't give a rats fart about the Pr of a page. If the site is good, and is getting traffic that is akin to your site, why should you allow a nothing factor like PR to cloud the decision to link?
     
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  16. arounddelhi

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    Hi,
    Old Welsh Guy,
    Do u mean to say that one can exchange links with any site without bothering about the PR, what else can u look for in a site.
    Anand
     
    arounddelhi, Sep 27, 2005 IP
  17. The Webmaster

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    #17
    Quality of site, Pages indexed by SEs, Traffic rate and most importantly the growth rate of the site.
    obviously, any new site wud have PR of 0, but if growth rate is good soon it will be 5 or 6. Soooo its better to join hand with them when they are 0.
     
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  18. scott.symbiotic.com

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    I agree with "the webmaster" it's always good to make friends early because the net is very dynamic and the quality of the site has a lot more to do with the results it will bring to you. As far as to link to non theme related sites the real question is why would you bother it's a waste of time and the traffic on their site are not looking for what you have and vice versa. There has been alot of talk about "Trust Rank" as a modification of Pagerank. Regardless if it exists yet it or not it seem like a great idea and if it's not real yet, I know that google must be working on it. Do you really want to bet against them. I would also like to clear up something, PageRank does exist but it's relative importance has shrank and it's now a single multiplier in the algorithm to determine your SERP.
     
    scott.symbiotic.com, Sep 28, 2005 IP