Could this be why my PR improved?

Discussion in 'Google' started by mediaguru, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. #1
    Back in January my blog, which was a PR5 for years, went to a PR4. I found a site or two scraping my content and I got them shut down.

    This month my blog is back to a PR5. I haven't done much in the way of SEO or backlinking lately, just a little. But I'm wondering if perhaps the duplicate content which was being scraped was hurting me before and now that it is gone my PR went back up?

    I'm not overly concerned about the PR, other than a few advertisers are willing to pay a few bucks more per month if my PR is higher.
     
    mediaguru, Jun 30, 2009 IP
  2. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #2
    I doubt it, i had pr on one of my sites go down for a while and recently it went back up and ive had no situation like yours, and i haven't done anything special for it with regards to seo over the last few updates.

    Basically it happens and often theres no obvious answer as to why your pr goes back up again.

    Duplicate content, if significant enough would more provoke a serps penalty or something.

    But anyway, congrats on your pr. :)
     
    pipes, Jun 30, 2009 IP
  3. markbennet

    markbennet Peon

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    #3
    I dont think this might be the exact reason. As Google is clever enough to sort out original website content owner from that of scraper.

    My website too lost its PR in previous update and now it is fine. It all depends on various factors. I have actually stopped doing SEO in this website,...
     
    markbennet, Jun 30, 2009 IP
  4. angilina

    angilina Notable Member

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    #4
    I personally think that for duplicate content, normally SERPs is penalized. Data scrapping can hurt a site's ranking in SERPs[in very few cases], but you can solve this issue via notifying Google about the new content in your site as soon as it get posted in your site.
     
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  5. theapparatus

    theapparatus Peon

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    #5
    I disagree with that as I've seen scrapers list higher on a search than the original site.

    Google may have penalized you for the "duplicate" content, or what it saw as duped.
     
    theapparatus, Jun 30, 2009 IP
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    Professional Dude Prominent Member

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    I dont think it's because of that, as others said, it would have helped your serps instead. Congrats on getting pr 5.
     
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  7. HarrisonJ

    HarrisonJ Well-Known Member

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    #7
    It could be so many reasons that your pr would fluctuate - more links, site getting older, restructuring your site, google algorythm changes, etc.

    Content scapers can be beneficial if you just put links back to your site in the articles, then you'll be getting more backlinks when the scrapers republish them.
     
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  8. rena

    rena Peon

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    #8
    Once penalized for duplicate contnet.. then after correct it alos very little chance to come back.. and alos may will back but take long time... If sure aboujt this issue better start another domain.. and keep working on it
     
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  9. theapparatus

    theapparatus Peon

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    #9
    That's one of the things I've suggested in the past as well. Linking back to previous articles also keeps things fresh within your archives with the search engine spiders.

    If you're going to get scraped, and you know it's going to happen, mind as well get some benefit out of it.
     
    theapparatus, Jul 1, 2009 IP
  10. lindamood1

    lindamood1 Active Member

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    #10
    thanks for sharing tips to improved pr
     
    lindamood1, Jul 1, 2009 IP
  11. Michaelr

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    PR works independently of serps so its unrelated!
     
    Michaelr, Jul 1, 2009 IP
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    bermuda Peon

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    #12
    Sometimes the PR fluctuations could be the result of Google devaluing or crediting some of the older links pointing at websites. This is especially true when you do nothing for a while and then your web PR goes up or down.
     
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    blognbucks Peon

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    #13
    yes once penalized its hard to come back. One of my site was penalized. Never came till now. Am just hoping that it comes back. Its around 2months already passed.
     
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  14. Grobbulus

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    #14
    Why was your site penalized?
     
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  15. generation2020

    generation2020 Member

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    #15
    There can be certain reasons behind PR valuation. Still, i don't think that content has anything to do with PR. PR is nothing but a calculation of backlinks to your website. Some of the links might be updated in this time period and they must be valuable.
     
    generation2020, Jul 1, 2009 IP
  16. zidit

    zidit Active Member

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    #16
    In my opinion, if scraping site has very very more backlink than your original content site, Google see you as less important site. Your saying is true, when scrapping site was penalized, you went with higher important page
     
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    MakeMoneyTutor Peon

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    #17
    Content is the King & Back links are the Queen. Hence, do this & get higher Page Rank.:)
     
    MakeMoneyTutor, Jul 2, 2009 IP
  18. ~kev~

    ~kev~ Well-Known Member

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    #18
    Page rank is determined by the number of backlinks that you have, not the content. Its more likely that a site that had a bunch of links to your blog went off line for a little while. Or someone took a link to your site off their blog, and then put it back on.

    When you have a question about your page rank and the number of backlinks you have, check your google webmaster tools. There is a section in there that shows the number of links you have and from where.
     
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  19. lightlysalted

    lightlysalted Active Member

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    #19
    things are never simple with PR. It could be an explanation but as PR is calculated on a multitude of factors, one factor is unlikely to have a huge bearing, but a combination of factors might.
     
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  20. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #20
    Something like that happened to me just today...

    I had a site that was PR4 then the server crashed and site was down for 13 days :((till coder came back from vacation) in which time
    i noticed that the last PR update (which fell during the time period site was down) the site dropped to PR3 with same amount of
    indexed pages during those 13 days.

    Now today when i checked the site has a few more (300) indexed pages and the PR4 has been re-updated to where it was at originally. :confused:

    I guess my point is that PR isnt done on a 3 month cycle anymore (depends on situation/issue its experiencing) as when i see threads here its
    constant toolbar PR updates anymore... whether they raised in PR or dropped.


    thx
    malcolm
     
    malcolm1, Jul 2, 2009 IP