Could I take legal action against an individual / group?

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Bruce McGivern, Jul 14, 2010.

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  1. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #21
    That "asshole" above you provides a lot of help to members here regarding the legalities of online business. (In case you got lost, this is actually a webmaster forum - not a Resident Evil forum.)

    When you insult forum regulars when you yourself have under 20 posts, and have a history of all kinds of crazy BS (by your own admission and all) then you are not endearing yourself to the members of a forum, you are isolating yourself.

    The problem is that you are convinced everyone but you is the problem. There is a reason that people online don't seem to like you, and I don't know exactly what that is - but if you go to a forum and whinge constantly, or you insult others from the get go or you post crap - well, you aren't going to be popular.

    You wanted to quit forums in mid 2009 and lasted 1.5 months - why not just leave this time, for good? Get a good shrink and talk through your problems. Obviously you are deeply effected by everything anyone online has ever said about you, ever, but that isn't normal. You need to address it.

    The reality is online, if someone wants to call you a horrible little *insert offensive term here* - they can. Flaming you isn't illegal, and that seems to be what most of this actually is - although spamming someone (or causing them to get spammed) IS illegal - so I'd watch that if I were you.

    I do feel bad for you, mostly because it seems like you've spent 7 years inside, on a computer, angry at people on the internet. You need to get a life outside of the internet; seriously.
     
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    EnforcementsCA Peon

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    #22
    There really is a lot of truth to the above post, I am betting... People that are constantly complaining of oppression and injustices visited upon them due to the ill intentions of others and who complain about the overall unfair nature of things in general....and moan that this and that 'keeps on happening to them' -- really, really, really need to take a good hard look at them selves...

    Yknow - when someone says "im not crazy, they're all crazy" - - what does that usually tell you about the speaker?

    HEY THERE WAS A GUY ON HERE WITH A SITE THAT MAY HELP YA...LEMME FIND.
    ah here it is


    have you considered...maybe.



    MAYBE






    JUST MAYBE,




    POSSIBLY....






    finding jesus?

    http://www.gotquestions.org/eternal-life.html

    this could be ze answer...
     
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    c_programmer Peon

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    #23
    Now I am convinced that you're just attention whoring. Get a life.
     
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  4. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #24
    Although some of it is clearly fake, there is a certain amount of truth and valuable links to be found here - reading some of his posts on other forums, even if you believe nothing from the link (although he's admitted pushing a young girl) it is more than clear the guy joins forums, seeks attention, acts like a jerk and then tries to spam people he doesn't like.

    Why he is now at a webmaster forum is beyond me. Maybe he can't join any more RE forums >.<'
     
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    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #25
    :eek::eek:

    F*ck me. I didn't even know such a site existed (dramatica one, that is). Reminds me of the old joke about Pedro the Donkey Shagger.
     
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  6. Bruce McGivern

    Bruce McGivern Well-Known Member

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    #26
    I don't think you get it. I don't get this type of mistreatment on other forums. It's just that if I go to say, a RE forum and they remember me or know me, they start what I just spoke about. That's how it has been since whenever. Why not look over the link again? As you can see, I never said anything to earn the ban. And I didn't retire at the end of last decade, because that would have made me look bad.

    It has nothing to do with me. You weren't there. You can never know. Why not send an e-mail to #'#'#@@# and ask her if you don't believe me. That's my sister's e-mail address. Maybe you'd like to tell her she's an "attention whore" as well, since she experienced it briefly at some stage, and quit forums almost immediately after.

    Nobody likes being made to look like a jackass, and for 7 years that's what they made me out to be. I'm actually very intelligent IRL.
     
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    lcwadminbj Peon

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    #27
    It Is my honest opinion that this part of your statement is extreamly questionable.

    I am sure your sister will be very happy to know that you are so intelegent that you
    posted her email address for every spammer and spam bot to collect and inundate
    her mail box with crap.

    I have been on the internet since 1998 and in that time I have been abused, used, and
    generally screwed over many times.
    Do I give a shit? NO I give back what I get. Winging and whining about this sort of petty thing
    only encourages them to continue.

    Now grow up and make a choice. Fight back or get off the internet for good.

    The first thing you need to do is get this thread closed as it has now well
    and truly left the realm of being a subject for the legal section.
    The way it reads it belongs in melodrama and comedy if there is such a section.
     
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  8. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #28
    Why would anyone here want to call your sister an attention whore? And more importantly, why are you giving our HER email on a public forum? She'll be on all kinds of spam lists when that is picked up - you shouldn't do that unless it is YOUR email. >.<'

    The problem here is that you are a whiny little bitch and people hate that, especially online.

    Don't come to DP and try to make people feel bad for you when you're clearly an attention whore - if you don't like how people online treat you, don't talk to people online. It really is THAT simple. Stay off forums - easily fixed.

    Also, you lost your right to be treated like a human being when you pushed that girl IMHO.
     
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  9. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #29
    Why is that most troublesome? Surely you've had some equally bad memories which you
    eventually got over, haven't you?

    I ask that for you to perhaps ask yourself why this bothers you so much. Or...perhaps it
    does because...hmm...you let it bug you a lot?

    I've been online for about seven years, not as long as some have. In all that time, I too
    have been subjected to certain online attacks that initially bothered me.

    One person here even called me a faggot and threatened to kill my family. I'm rather still
    waiting (likely in vain) for that person to make good on that threat.

    Seriously, one ought to learn to develop a thick skin because there are all kinds of peeps
    posting online who'll say anything and everything. Some of them even say nasty stuff if
    they probably have nothing else nice to state to especially rebut an argument.

    One other thing: when that lady posts stuff online that perceivedly harasses you, did he
    or she post about your real name or your online nick? Because if that involves mostly the
    latter, then how exactly one can feel harassed or so if people don't even really know the
    real you other than an online alias?

    And really, some folks are giving you realistic advice. May hurt at first, but you might be
    surprised how true they are if you give them a shot.

    Perhaps a few bits to ponder. It's not the end of the world, after all.

    Someone bonk my head if I missed something...
     
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  10. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #30
    btw, you don't need a printer to snag a screenshot.

    The Prt Scr button - when you come across something you want to take an image of, just hit that button then open a graphics app - MS Paint will do - then Paste into a new picture. Save it. You now have a screenshot. Although the buttons suggests that it actually prints to a printer, it doesn't, it prints to disc.

    Another thing you can do if you really want to snag a page is use your browser's File button. File > Save Page As...

    Y'know, all things said n all. Pedro / Grace / Whatever, you said you had some condition or other - which apparently makes a person overly-sensitive. Now here's how you should perhaps approach all this silliness - remember you are overly-sensitive to stuff then logically ask yourself if you are possibly over-reacting due to your condition. Chances are that you are. Next step is to tell yourself to let it go / ignore it / move on without comment (the last part is especially important).

    I don't think anyone who has been on the internet for a long time and has regularly used forums hasn't been trolled / insulted / threatened / accused / lied about / yadda yadda. What everyone does is find a way to move on / let it go / ignore it.
     
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  11. Bruce McGivern

    Bruce McGivern Well-Known Member

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    #31
    To disc? If you don't mind me asking, what's the actual title for it?
     
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    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #32
    Print Screen.
     
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  13. Bruce McGivern

    Bruce McGivern Well-Known Member

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    #33
    The girl in the shop wasn't little, and I can assure you she did deserve getting a light push at the time. Yes, a light push. Not a heavy shove as many people fantasize. You weren't any part of these events. So you don't know what caused what to unfold. I know how to contact her, and I wasn't charged. I got a breech of the peace. What peace they refer to, I do not know.

    I don't know why people always use that against me in a chat about the internet, especially since I'm only seeking a hard concrete answer to my problems.

    And I'm not particularly bothered about my online rep, since mine is more or less ruined. I tried that path before and it didn't work out well for me. It's no secret that the biscuits don't like me. But that's okay, because they're fannies. No love loss there.

    Also, I'm not what you long time posters call a newbie. I've been on the net for a very long time and had many ups and downs. I even at one time had my own website. That more or less makes me an unsung veteran of sorts.

    I'm sorry if I riled you up in any way that wasn't intentional. But you know, you only know me from here. It's not like my whole world has fell apart at the seams. However, the world has changed rather radically over the years, and not necessarily for the better. The net can be extremely dangerous, and there are people worse than me online. Hell, just think of those hackers who get through to the White House to attack the president. Now, that's what I'd call a bad human being, because that person or people just do it out of malice. My actions are reactions to the actions of others. And as I pointed out before, I only get grief online if the people behind the abuse can somehow identify me. I have actually been on one particular board for nearly 4 years now, and nobody pesters me on there.

    Nobody from here would have even known about what went on at ED if I hadn't spoke of it.
     
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    alexispetrov Peon

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    #34
    I'm going to make this really, really simple for you.

    You pushed a girl. It wasn't in self defense. She was underage, but even if she were 40 - it is no less of a crime.

    Normal, decent folk hate males who hit females - that's life. We'd all like it if your face was raped with a screwdriver. "Oh noez! Why would you harass me? I pushed a girl - so what? Don't rape mah face!!!1one!omg" - mother fucker.

    You are a newbie - a HUGE n00b, actually - you know why? Because in 8 years you still haven't mastered the art of posting like a person and not a pathetic little asshat.

    I have NO patience with "people" like you. Your actions are NOT reactions to the actions of others as you claim - they are actions of your own. Grow up and take some god damned responsibility! If I had a bitch fit at every person here who called me a mean name, and could blame it on them and act like a little bitch over it - well, I guess there'd be a lot of people here with mailboxes full of spam. (The last resort of the pathetic.)

    You weren't an adult when you first got online, but you are now - it is time to grow up.

    Right now, you ARE a douche bag - you know it, too - which is part of why you are so fucking angry.

    Take a step back - start over - you are young enough that you don't have to be this attention grabbing whore. You CAN change.

    Take responsibility, be a man - and begin a new life - or don't. Then be 50 and still having your bitch ass kicked by everyone online. Change. You still can.

    Oh, and for the record - I know you from elsewhere. We're close in age and I've been on half the forums you have, just under nicknames. I've never been a part of any of your QQ threads, but I've seen them.

    Take this opportunity to be a man - don't justify pushing a girl, seriously - in real life you WILL get beat up - and stop playing the victim. Do it before you are too old to change.
     
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    #35
    I think you care too much
     
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  16. Bruce McGivern

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    #36
    I think I need to use smaller words. You're clearly not listening, or don't want to know. Probably the latter. And quite frankly, this isn't anything new. Everybody else treats me like crap, so welcome to my exclusive club.

    Look, I've been on more forums than most of you shit hole spammers out there can join in one lifetime. I've NEVER had baloney like this on 70% of the ones unaffiliated with those who banned me. Therefore, no problem, no need to bash me, no nothing.

    And the girl did not charge me. The manager realized he was jerk about things, so he said sorry. Over the bloody phone. He could have just done nothing. AND WHAT DOES THAT RANDOM GIRL HAVE TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC? THE ANSWER: ZILCH.

    Now I'm really well and truly sorry if you think I'm an arsehole (British term for "asshole" and all). But like I said, I'm only seeking answers in regards to ED and those who are editing it.

    So I'll end this by saying this: "You were not there. You can never know what it was like, regardless of whether I'm being emo or not. You didn't endure it. You're only seeing half the picture."

    Now I really did try to be civil over the years. I always believe that nothing is final in life, so had they backed off and/or let me post on their forums, none of this crap would ever have happened. Everybody would have been happy. They're as much to blame for this as I am, and Beasley is.
     
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    #37
    It isn't an exclusive club, man - anyone is welcome.

    Also, please look up the definition of spam - you are clearly not all that knowledgeable; you've been online almost as long as I have, so this is a bit surprising, but OK....

    Whether or not the girl charges you isn't relevant, you're RIGHT!

    What actually matters is that you pushed a girl and it wasn't in self defense; if there is one thing I know, it is that no man puts up with that sort of shit - online or off. Men who hit women, push women, abuse women, etc - they are at the bottom of the barrel - they're open for all kinds of shit, and that is why they get the roughest time in jail. (Do you know what inmates do to people who hurt kids of women? It aint pretty.)

    You have a shot to change. Change, or be a little bitch looking for attention in a forum where no one gives a shit about you.

    Think on it really - you want to be like this at 30, 50, at 80? Get a good shrink and learn to deal with your internet "issues".
     
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  18. Bruce McGivern

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    #38
    You know, Peter, you never will be accepted into a forum community if
    you continually bash those in charge of it. Insulting people like Marco,
    DaMa and blackannis get you no where and they will continue to make a
    spectacle of you.

    I really cannot even fathom why you are still trying to win
    this losing battle. Do you really want this to be your life in ten or so
    years? Do you want to be remembered as that loser 20-year-old that stay
    plastered to a computer screen all his life? If you call that living, then by all
    means do it, but to me and 99.9% else of society it is not a very
    fulfilling life.

    Secondly, when you make a friend, actually keep that friend by treating
    them right. What does that consist of? Simply put, do not harass them 24/7
    as you just come off as desperate; also do not go bi-polar on them and start
    spamming forums they are affiliated with or filling their email
    accounts with useless garbage.

    Personally, I don't care what you do anymore in regards to forums. I am
    no longer affiliated with any of them as I once was. I just think you
    should quit while you are ahead with things and actually leave your house for
    a change. Eventually someone is going to take legal actions against you
    as you will push them too far...And then *gasp* you WILL be forced from the
    internet. And you know what, life will go on.

    Think about that: Do you really care what people hundreds of miles away
    that you will never meet think of you? Will these people be in your life 10,
    15, even 30 years from now? Normal people don't, I will tell you that much.

    ...Lastly, if you're going to go through the hassle of getting German
    IP Address and whatnot, actually use it instead of being a moron about it.
    I mean, seriously, if you absolutely MUST belong to an internet forum
    (And that is sad if that is your life long goal), then get the fake IP
    Address, get a new image hosting site so people don't know it's you with the
    home.ripeway crap, and act like a civilized person. (Define
    "Civilized": A person who acts friendly to those around him/her. A person who does not
    sabbotage potential friendships. A person who talks about relevant
    things that are of interest to those around him/her. This means don't talk
    about crap that YOU KNOW people don't care about. [I.E. People do not care
    about your 80's bands; if you want to talk about that, go to a forum about
    it]).

    You know how to fit in, you just choose not to.

    I don't know...I probably just wasted my time trying to reason with you
    for probably the 57th time, but truth be told I am bored out of my mind
    right now.

    However, if you want to be seen as a loser your whole life, then
    disregard what I said and keep living how you are now.

    Sincerely,
    Alexander Ashford
     
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    Bruce McGivern Well-Known Member

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    #39
    The post by Alexander Ashford was originally on RECommunity in late 2005. It is gone now, but that is the same post, saved as a quote.
     
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    alexispetrov Peon

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    #40
    Haha, not me darlin' - I am an actual woman, my name isn't Alexander and I've never been in any of your previous bitch-fest threads - only witnessed them.

    That said, Alexander Ashford, if you come across this thread - hit me up brother! You seem like a stand up dude :D

    I'm flattered that I remind you of this guy; honestly, I am. I wish I had half the way with words; these days I know that I don't.

    Goodluck not being a whiny pussy anymore. (Seriously, Alexander - you see this - hit me up - I'd love to be in touch! Especially if this douche bag sticks around DP :))
     
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