Could Google Out past Microsoft?

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  1. opiapr

    opiapr Peon

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    #21
    Thats a good one. I got very psit with Google when it disable my keywords in adwords (the top performing ones) that had a CPC of $2.01 and to activate it I needed to increase the CPC to a minimun of $6.00. This is a monopolistic action because I was getting over 200 clicks a day on those keywords and a CTR of 5.1%. They said the quality of the CPC won't be enought to triggle ads. That false. Because if that was the case why the 3 clicks a day and CTR of less than 1% didn't became disable but the top one. I won't like G to became a Microsoft but I didn't like what I am seeing right now.
     
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  2. king_cobra

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    #22
    The problem is most people (almost 90%) cannot see MS beyond the OS buisness. Its true, we know MS through the windows and its office products. But its not the case really. MS's most popular product is ofcourse windows, but its not the one which contributes the most to MS's profit. MS offers a variety of other services. BIG, really BIG companies, banks, etc are their clients in the services sector. MS create s/w which forms the back bone to these buisnesses. They provide support to these products. They even have management consultancy (everyone in the management field knows, the consultancy arena is the big roller). So even if Vista is thrown to bin by every PC user and out of the blue some OS emerges to capture 100% (being really optimistic) of the market share, they can't touch MS.

    I am not advocating for MS against Google here. Its a fact. Google is a giant company. It has its own market dominance (search and information gathering). But the question is what can Google offer to the services sector and to the PC s/w market? OS? browser? Office tools? But then, they will have to restructure their company. Google scientists are those who does research in information clustering, web trees, information islands, and such high end faculties of computer science. Google is a company which specialises in these algorithms and their improvement. If Google decides to enter the s/w sector. MS will know it for sure and will have amble time to defend their market. The advantage is to MS here. They have the reputation (not among the windows users anyway) and the talent (the best of them) and the experience.
     
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    Sunny Well-Known Member

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  4. opiapr

    opiapr Peon

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    #24
    Thts good thing from G. But to be faire. Bill and Melinda Gate Foundation in with the major contributor after Bill and Melinda is Microsoft. Contribute $5 billion a year to AID research. Had created hundreds of specialised school for poor talented kids. It grant money to investigation in many bad diases and tecnology that can help improve the quality of life. Not to mention thier work in Africa agains malaria and other bad diases. This is a point in favor of both MS and hard to said Bill Gates who is about to lose is tittle as the world richest man to Warren Buffet. This because it had give almost 40% of its money to the foundation. More on this can be found on the Forbes Magazine website at Forbes.com
     
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    #25
    Yes Yes... Bill contributes much to the pharma research sector. Two gains, one pain. He gets the good name. He can enter the pharma market which he knows is the next big thing. Diseases will be there as long as humans are here, and medicines have a non ending market. What if his resaech finds the cure for AIDS? it will hit the market like viagra did. u think he will sell it freely? And its a public secret that Mr. Gate's dream is to find a way to extend the life cycle of man.
     
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    Sunny Well-Known Member

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    #26
    I agree, Mr. W. H. Gates has always tried to make money. This research in the pharma field is going to be a big success if the foundation reaserchers can find the cure for AIDS.
    I don't think that Bill Gates is going to do something relally good without thinking about the returning profits.
     
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    #27
    That's a businessman, always thinking about profits...
     
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  8. opiapr

    opiapr Peon

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    #28
    If he were for the money he will be buying stakes in companies like he is doing with biotechnology. He is not doing that but granting money mostlly to non profit organizations. Also most of the research he grant money are for diases that do not have a big market and thats why big pharma do not research or invest on them. I am no Bill fan but If someone do something right we can't take the credit from them.
     
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    #29
    How did this turn from Google v Microsoft to Bill Gates trying to save the planet?
    So what do I think about the "Clash of the Titans." Well, Microsoft is extremely diversified while Google has a narrow market focus in comparison. Unless Google wants to take on the fight with Microsoft on all fronts (ISP services, Server Software, etc..) they will not win. Even if they do decide to branch out to provide everything Microsoft does (or more), they STILL probably won't win... I'm sure that Microsoft is feeling Google's breath on the back of their necks which is why they tried to prevent them from hiring Kai-Fu Lee. They felt that the information that Lee could provide Google would push them closer or even past them in the market... I'm curious as to what Google has planned for these next 5-10 years but I'm sure that Microsoft has an Ace in their sleeve that they are ready to pull out. The good thing that comes from this is that competition usually forces companies to create better products opposed to if they had sole market share. I say fight on!
     
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    #30
    Well.. none is taking the credit out of him. If you know buisness then you wud have easily guessed why the big names always go for charity. first, it gives them tax reduction. for example, MicroSoft India (I am from India, so can't comment on any other nation) donates 2% or something of their profits to charity or Prime Minister's fund. Have you ever heard of black money? Every buisness has it. The money they cant account for. Its this money they are flowing as charity. Whats the advantage? 1. Here they will get 100% reduction on tax for that 2% money. 2. They now have something to mark as what the money does (they can forget where it came from) in the year end audition. 3. Press release. Huge media attention. So cutting cost on advertisements. Anyway, they can save as much money as they spend as charity. In buisness, there is only profits.
     
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  11. keral82

    keral82 Banned

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    #31
    Don't under estimate Microsoft. I am a microsoft lover myself. I also dont hate google. But I think microsoft is the biggest fish in the pond. Google can be the second biggest. what do you think does google's importance for search engine is bigger then microsoft's windows in each and every home. People use yahoo search, looksmart etc. But compared to that people use more windows then google. And this was just a matter of windows. Not including Office and other products.

    Also I don't think microsoft will keep sleeping till google takes over.
     
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