Copyscape Question For Cheap Writers

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by jacki3, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. #1
    I've seen "cheap writers" talk about how their articles will pass copyscape. Do you have Premium accounts or are you just guessing? Because honestly, at $1.5 for 300 words I wonder how you are able to pay 5 cents to copyscape an article.

    $1.5 - copyscape - paypal fees = i don't even want to calculate :(

    In my experience, even if you made an article from scratch, there is always a .01% chance that you'll get a "hit". Especially when it comes to product descriptions (affiliate sites, medications, etc) and rewrites. I don't rely on article or content checkers, because these are not really as effective as copyscape. So sometimes, instead of just 1 search, you end up paying 10 cents.

    Do you really use copyscape or is the buyer taking a chance with your work? No offense, it's an honest question. And I'm sure buyers would like to know if they are indeed buying UNIQUE content.
     
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  2. rayaan

    rayaan Peon

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    #2
    Interesting question.

    I always wondered how anyone working for $1.5 per article could take the Paypal fee hit. Add Copyscape fees to that, and what on earth are they going home with? They'd be lucky to get a peanut with what's left over! :D

    And I don't buy the "they live in developing countries" BS. You couldn't survive in a decent sized Indian city with that kind of money.

    Hope we can hear some points of view from Copyscape writers!:D
     
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    redgsr Well-Known Member

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    You can use copyscape for free - I think you can check up to 20 times per URL. If you have 5-6 URL's that enough for most writers. 120 articles per month or so.
     
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  4. jacki3

    jacki3 Peon

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    hi redgsr: what we're actually talking about it how these writers can guarantee that their articles are indeed unique even before they turn it over to their clients. if i upload one of my client's articles into my website, there's a chance that google will index it - say goodbye to unique content :)

    another thought: the clients might be the ones running the content through copyscape. But if you are advertising unique, copyscape passed articles - you have to back it up with something more tangible.
     
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    aspire Well-Known Member

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    I think you can execute copyscape for limited number of times per month from a single ip address without paying a cent.
     
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    amanamission Notable Member

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    I kind of think this is nonsense. An original article which is custom created with unique phrasing is likelier to pass Copyscape than a condom is to pass conception.

    "Passing Copyscape" is merely a standard by which the uniqueness of the writing can be gauged. I don't subscribe to the service because I am confident that the articles I submit to our clients will pass, and that any random "hits" will be obviously radically different in tone, style and phrasing. I know this because I know that the work is original and deliberately avoids similarity to any sources consulted for research.
     
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    Maybe I should get involved with this thread as a writer myself.

    When I write or recieve articles I used to copyscape them all the time to ensure uniqueness. As I have been concentrating on some websites when I have no orders I don't really actually copyscape the articles before uploading them - I know I wrote them in my own words from my own brain.

    Don't get me wrong, on a common topic I suppose there still is a chance of something coming back but being from Sheffield in the UK I think that someone else talking and phrasing things exactly the way I do is very slim.

    I usually tend to copyscape like 1 in 5 or 10 as a random check.

    If I have gone off topic I apologise and I agree with the previous thread, when people charge so low they often forget about the charges from paypal/copyscape.

    When I used to outsource work (in the beginning of my copywriting career) I used to copyscape other writers work after they claimed they have too. Guess what, some came back with results. I think many writers don't actually use it because if you say you will be checking it - they think they don't have to.

    If any results come back they will ask what parts etc and make the changes so they have escaped the 5 cent charge but let you down - which many people don't mind doing if it saves a quick buck here and there.

    Richard
     
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  8. jacki3

    jacki3 Peon

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    Like I said, when it comes to some technical and medical terms, there's a possibility that you'll get hit with duplicate content. I've had that problem in the past when it comes to tables with dosages, potency period, etc; even if I read the label of the physical product itself.

    I'm not actually asking how to gauge a content's uniqueness or quality for that matter, but rather asking how cheap writers are able to promise a "copyscape passed" article without even processing their work through the said service.
     
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    bon300187 Peon

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    To be honest I don't think they even know themselves, it's more of a requirement as people always ask for "copyscape" approved content.

    They probably just stick it in their opening post so that people hire them and have more confidence in them.
     
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  10. jacki3

    jacki3 Peon

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    Might I also add, without the intention of offending cheap writers, that for lack of time to research and to read about the topics, they are most likely rehashing an existing article they've found on other websites.

    The question isn't really for those who charge a minimum of $0.10 per word or $35 per hour; but more for writers who charge less than the usual cent per word.
     
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    True, it would be good to see an answer by one of the "cheaper" writers to see how they get by.
     
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  12. geegel

    geegel Well-Known Member

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    It's real easy actually.

    You sit down in front of the computer, open the list of prospects you will spam for the day, type something like "the bestest copyscape passing artilces", work like crazy 12/24 then laugh all the way to the piggy bank.

    Regards, George
     
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    I don't actually understand what you mean there, can you elaborate a little :) I'm tired :rolleyes:
     
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    so they pay .10 in avg for an article to be passed copyscap and there fee is only 1.40 so what, there from india, it's like 20$ for you.
     
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    jacki3 Peon

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    Honestly, I found geegel's post really funny because I've received a couple of messages via IM recently saying "I looking for more work, you think you give me some project I can do?" I'd be crazy to refer someone with that kind of English skill and ruin my reputation in the process :rolleyes:
     
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    jacki3 Peon

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    The exchange rate is $1 - 39.85INR according to google. With paypal fees (say 3.9%+.30 cents if your client has a Non-US verified paypal account) and copyscape; that leaves about $1.09 left (42.3465INR). :confused: That's not even enough to buy my kid lunch :(
     
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    Ouch that's low. Regardless where they are from they should be charging accurate rates and shouldn't settle for a few cents.

    That is providing the quality is good, I have seen many people setting up threads or asking for work and including mistakes - that's not a good start to getting a gig.
     
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