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Copy of Coop?

Discussion in 'Products & Tools' started by a389951l, Dec 16, 2004.

  1. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #21
    No, because it is still in alpha as far as I know.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. Ned

    Ned Active Member

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    #22
    I'm gonna have a little think on how it would best to do it and might launch something next week depending on the outcome of my brainstorming.
     
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    mopacfan Peon

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    #23
    So Ned, what about an ASP version?
     
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    Ned Active Member

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    #24
    Being worked on already. Should be done in a day or 2.
     
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  5. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #25
    And ColdFusion
     
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  6. Ned

    Ned Active Member

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    #26
    Don't know the slighest thing about CF, having said that I didn;t on ASP until yesterday, and i'm doing ok atm considering the asp port is 50% done :p
     
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  7. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #27
    ColdFusion is a MarkUp language, so isn't that difficult to learn (Although I don't know it) :rolleyes:
     
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  8. mopacfan

    mopacfan Peon

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    #28
    CF is nearly identical to ASP in it's format and implementation. Just in CF, you can create your own tags. The down side is it costs $5,000 for a server license. ASP is free :)
     
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  9. Ned

    Ned Active Member

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    #29
    Are there that many cf users?
     
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  10. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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  11. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #31
    The work I'm doing is definitely still in alpha, and original in it's approach to ad/theme management (it pretty much has to be if all the bases are going to be covered.)

    As for a discreet url, I haven't even bothered yet. For me the process is the most important aspect, the window dressing (and branding/domain) can come when I go to beta.

    All I can say is I hope people have learned from Shauns experience. It's one thing to drop reworked clixchange code on a shared host, another entirely to run a coop as Shaun is doing. The time involved just to manage it as it grows will bring a quick end to most.

    Good things take time.

    For those who've expressed interest in the project, I do appreciate it, and when I need assistance testing the beta rollout, I'll contact you.

    ***Actually - it's time I DID get a domain together for this project, and throw up a forum or the like so ppl can actually ask for features. If ever there was a time to do it, this is prolly it :)


    Cheers,

    JL
     
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    dazzlindonna Peon

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    #32
    I agree that it must be an incredibly time-consuming project and one I would certainly never want to take on. I think a very well thought out FAQ would be essential. In any case, I've just been thinking about it and saying, "you know, somebody should do that", and it's good to see somebody is.
     
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    #33
    Certainly took a hell of a lot of coding to get it up and running, not to mention server costs. Hopefully be worth it in the end.
     
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    #34
    I started to signup, but noticed the "yourcan.php" file is almost line-for-line identical to a prior version of DigitalPoint's own "ad_network.php". Changing variable names does not make something into original code. Claiming that this code is "from scratch" is just plain dishonest.

    In participating in this type of Coop network, its paramount to have trust in the administator of it. Will the weighting be fair, or will the admin use it to his own advantage? Would my site's content and code be next on the copy machine? I'm all for building links using multiple coops, but I'll be staying away from this one.
     
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    #35
    It may well be similar, but thats because they are ALL standard PHP functions.

    Read a file, write to a file, split a string up into an array, e.t.c are all standard php functions. Hence why it looks the same. The yourcan.php is likt 0.5% of the code of the system. The rest of the system there is no way its shauns code as I can't see his source code, and even if I could I wouldn't use it.
     
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  16. szy

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    #36
    And, hard to believe, we've found today another copy of Coop in Poland...

    Are all this networks based on a script on GNU/GPL? Are they really written by someone of you, Ned, Shawn?

    Szy.
     
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  17. a389951l

    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    #37
    I am sure underneath the hood of the car that the code is yours of course. But when a person looks at two similar cars that look, feel and drive the same what do expect people to say? Yeah the engine is different for sure but everything appears to be the same. The only apparent difference is your weighting system but even that has some similarities. It would have been great if it was unique in some way but that is just my opinion.

    In any case, good luck with it. Diversity is a good thing :)! One shouldn't be too dependent on any one network anyway.
     
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  18. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #38
    If I may comment folks, the client side code (no matter which what coop) is bound to be simillar, given it's role, and importantly, management of that role - ie eval file, eval time, grab and insert etc.

    Really folks, you're going to find simillarities no matter how you go.

    I mean, a BMW is a BMW regardless of the paint job. It comes down to how well the engine has been reworked, and whether it can even hold a candle to a Hummer ;)

    That said, WM confidence is absolutely everything.
    Without it, a coop will go nowhere.

    Cheers,

    JL
     
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    #39

    Bit confused. What you mean is a coop for porn/gambling/'naughty' sites?
     
    Sven, Dec 17, 2004 IP
  20. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    #40
    Not sure if you're asking DD or me, but..

    Basically yes. Not exclusively those themes, but management that allows you to set up 'cells' or theme group/objects is what I'm doing. You then apply them to your site/s. So if you run an adult ad and someone has associated adult themes with their site, those ads can appear on their site. It just depends on what you're willing to carry on your site.

    It'll all become clearer once I go to beta and ppl can have a poke around - but that's not going to happen for at least another 2 months.

    Something like this has to be done properly, WM confidence is everything :)

    Oh, yeah, I'll be posting the new domain shortly where I've a forum for those interested in the project. Ppl can discuss features they'd like to see or discuss other emerging coops etc.

    Cheers,

    JL
     
    john_loch, Dec 17, 2004 IP