Copied article ranks above original article!

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by chamiljayaweera@yahoo.com, Nov 25, 2009.

  1. gvannorman

    gvannorman Well-Known Member

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    #21
    When it comes to copyscape i always include the report with my articles.
     
    gvannorman, Nov 30, 2009 IP
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    zaggernaut Active Member

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    #22
    That's a best practice everyone should adopt to safeguard your work.
     
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  3. dugu56

    dugu56 Peon

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    #23
    Something similar happened to me about 10 months ago.
    I published a post on one of my blogs - and a few days later I did a check and my surprise was enormous when I found it on a blogspot blog that wasn't even linking back to my original post, and thus blog. Not only, but this moron with his blogspot blog was on top of my blog in Google's results...

    Man, was I mad and outraged? Of course I was. I went to the Google's webmaster forum and posted about it. Than I sent an email to Google's support, and how outraged I was about the entire story, and about the fact that it is so difficult to contact Google and be able to complain about stolen content, that also ranked higher than my blog with the original content - published 3 days prior than on the thief's blog.

    Long story short - within a week the post was gone from this blogspot blog, but I never had a response from Google in regards. They did take action so to see, as I wasn't able to even contact the thief - no Contact Us page on his free blog.

    In any case - if I see that a post of mine - original content is used by someone else, and without the proper back linking, than they can count on it that I will hunt them down, and one way or another they will bite the dust.
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2009
    dugu56, Dec 12, 2009 IP
  4. ivanf

    ivanf Peon

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    #24
    Yeah it happens with my blog sometimes, but theirs nothing much to do about it.
     
    ivanf, Dec 12, 2009 IP
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    mreb1010 Peon

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    #25
    Ok, I am probably going to sound dense now but I didn't know that you could buy articles to republish. I thought this was something that would get you banned from the article sites. (if they are duplicate articles that have been published) I sit here and write my articles on paper. Now I do copy some lines from different sites while doing my research by don't duplicate ads (but hey, I have to research) and if I like a line I will throw it in
    If this is fine by google rules, where can I go to purchase articles (that are legit and wont get me into trouble with the article publishers) because I hate article writing. It is like a chore. I would rather build the squidoo lens and do Usfreeads
     
    mreb1010, Dec 14, 2009 IP
  6. CarlitoBregante

    CarlitoBregante Peon

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    #26
    I'm a writer and I've done plenty of freelance. If I work with someone who is afraid of being scammed, etc.. I ask for a portion (maybe half) of the payment to begin the project and then I send my client a draft. If they are happy with my work, I ask for complete payment before I send the final draft. Anyone who is trying to do honest work should be okay with that process. Granted it is a bit of a pain in the ass, but well worth it if it keeps you from getting scammed.
     
    CarlitoBregante, Dec 17, 2009 IP
  7. zaggernaut

    zaggernaut Active Member

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    #27
    As already mentioned above, let me re-iterate- Please use Copyscape.

    If you are a writer, tell your client that you'll be copyscaping the article and will attach reports. So, you safeguard both yourself from future blames, and give your client a peace of mind.
    Same applies to those who outsource writing, insist for Copyscape report, or, do it at your end before paying.

    Hersh
     
    zaggernaut, Dec 17, 2009 IP
  8. ladymacbeth9

    ladymacbeth9 Well-Known Member

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    #28
    "Where I can find writers who accept payments after I receive the article? I think hard to find. "

    Anyone worth their salt is going to take a deposit and then take payment when they are done with your job. There needs to be some proof of intent on both sides, but frankly if they want payment up front, run a mile.. LOL I write for a living and I still think that paying them before they do even part of the job is a bad idea.
     
    ladymacbeth9, Dec 25, 2009 IP
  9. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #29
    Actually, quite a few writers take payment in full up front (myself included). It's not a sign to run. It's a sign that they're in enough demand to confidently set their own payment terms (for me that means any project under $1000 is in full up front, and greater than that can be split into two or three payments if requested). It's more a sign that you landed a writer who knows what they're doing. Clients have much easier recourse if something goes wrong after payment than a writer does in collecting for time not paid for. The only time it's a sign to run is if they don't have the credentials or experience to show that they take care of clients. As long as they do, they're the seller and they set the payment policies (no different than most types of business, even if some freelancers do allow people to walk all over them).
     
    jhmattern, Dec 25, 2009 IP
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    Forgive my ignorance. I've just signed up for Copyscape's premium services and did a bit of exploring with the scans for web content, text comparisons and sundry. Errr.... How do I get a copy of this Copyscape "report"? :confused:
     
    pixie dust, Dec 25, 2009 IP
  11. ladymacbeth9

    ladymacbeth9 Well-Known Member

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    #31
    If you purchase something in store you are given that product when you pay for it in full or with a credit card.

    You don't pay for it without seeing it or having any evidence or example of what you will be purchasing unless you're a very unwise buyer. Having very consistently been on both sides of the coin, and having won some things like the Volunteer service award from the American Red Cross for a 300 page report to the Department of the Army I think that I can safely say that I'm a competent writer with good credentials. I still don't ask for a full payment ahead of time.

    That does not mean that I permit others to take advantage of me, it means I'm a fair business woman who looks out for both myself AND my clients.

    Shall we agree to disagree?
    RD
     
    ladymacbeth9, Dec 25, 2009 IP
  12. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #32
    And every client has access to "examples" of what they're buying up front. That's what a portfolio is. If you don't have one as a writer, then you're slacking in your own business. If you don't check one as a client, then it's your own fault if you get screwed. "Wise" buyers always have a good idea of what they're getting before they spend a cent.

    I don't really care if you disagree with me. My schedule is booked months in advance, and I have a waiting list of people who are happy to pay up front should an opening come up. When you work with bigger budget clients, these things generally aren't an issue, so please don't act like taking payment up front is somehow not looking out for the client. They know that payment serves as a retainer on my time that other people would happily take. They're happy to pay it. So yes, you're free to disagree. But don't imply that my clients aren't taken care of because I do things differently. That's a luxury I've earned over time, one that works in my market (as well as those of quite a lot of other service providers), and if my clients weren't taken care of they wouldn't keep coming back. And just for the record, I also hire service providers fairly regularly and always pay up front unless the provider refuses payment until the work is complete (which is odd, but happens once in a while). So I practice what I preach on both sides of the table as well, and pretty successfully. To each his own.
     
    jhmattern, Dec 27, 2009 IP
  13. connie ho

    connie ho Peon

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    #33
    hello, I can totally understand your frustration as this has happened to me twice. However, I am luckier because my original article ranks #1 on google for that topic. What I do now my blogs, I add links to those good articles. Although I can't stop plagarism, at least people know I 'Connie Ho' write them. It also be a good idea to post your best articles on ezinearticles, that way your post should rank higher than your copier since it is reputable. Am I right? Cheers
     
    connie ho, Jan 3, 2010 IP