Controversial question paper: Professor's hand cut off

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by masterrio, Jul 6, 2010.

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    Muvattupuzha, (Kerala) July 4 : A college professor, currently on bail for preparing a inflammatory question paper, had his right palm chopped off by a group of eight unidentified people Sunday morning, police said

    T.J. Joseph was returning home with his family after attending morning prayers when a group of people in a van pulled him out of his car. Joseph's right palm was chopped off and thrown some 200 meters away, police said.

    He also suffered deep cuts on the body and was rushed to a specialty hospital at Kochi for a surgery to reattach the severed palm.

    Joseph is on bail after being arrested by the police in April for preparing a question paper with alleged inflammatory references to Prophet Mohammed for an exam in a private college.

    Joseph, a Malyalam teacher, was suspended by Thodupuzha New Man College after angry protest marches by various Muslim organisations.

    "The registration number of the vehicle in which the assailants came is fake. The immediate provocation of this crime appears to be the question paper issue," said P.P.Shams, Muvattupuzha Circle Inspector of Police.

    A horrified Mary Stella, Joseph's sister, said: "They (accused) smashed the glass of our car and pulled my brother out and hacked him. Our aged mother was also in the car and witnessed the crime."

    Condemning the gruesome crime, Education Minister M.A. Baby lamented that some people had communalised the question paper issue.

    "Without doubt, this crime is a blot on the secular credentials of the state" Baby said.

    Supreme head of the Indian Union Muslim League, Panakad Hyderali Shiyab Thangal said that one wrong cannot be corrected by another wrong. "Whoever are the culprits, tough action should be taken against them," Thangal said.


    so this mess has started even in our own India too by the muslim elements :eek:
     
    masterrio, Jul 6, 2010 IP
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    That's religion for ya!
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #3
    Is it worse that a bunch of followers of the "Religion of Peace" chopped off his hand, or that the Indian government had arrested him for exercising free speech?
     
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    We have rule of law in the country, everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. If a bunch people decided to take him to court then the police is legally obliged to conduct their investigation and the accused has to defend himself. Ofcourse if he isn't found guilty he'll be acquitted. BTW this is not a freedom of speech issue, he made whatever remarks he made in his capacity as a government teacher. He has no right to set question papers at his whims and fancies and must face the charges.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #5
    They would not be able to file a complaint unless there were laws on the books which criminalized free speech.

    The police and the courts bear responsibility for their actions. If I call the police tonight and tell them that my neighbor is a witch who placed a hex on me, do you think the civilized Singaporean police will arrest my neighbor?

    If he was a government worker, he could be disciplined by his boss, not arrested by the police. But, he was teaching at a private college, making government interference even less acceptable.
     
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    There are anti-hate speech laws in almost every country, so if you stood in the middle of singapore and talked shit about Muslims, the police would most probably take you in, question you and you would be able to get bail next day, then you would have to defend yourself in court. Thats exactly what happened.

    And I'm pretty sure it was a government college since its website is hosted at ac.in which is reserved for government academic ist. in india
     
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    Singapore will also fine you for failing to flush a toilet or spitting on the sidewalk. Singapore will either cane you or kill you for the possession or sale of drugs. I wouldn't hold out the actions of a dictatorship, however benevolent, as a guideline for what is right and proper, even if I happen to agree with some of those actions.
     
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    Quoted for the reading impaired.
     
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    India is currently run by anti hindu body , you can speak anything about hindus but if you speak anything against peaceful relgion , govt will come after you , people from peaceful religion will burn your house , cut your hands , nothing will happen to them , they will come out in bail whatever crime they do , since that is what is specified in their book and in india you cannot prevent them practicing their religion.
     
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    Does anyone else find it comical that the champion of free speech is a big pussy when it comes to freedom of speech on his forum? I'm seriously thinking of coming over at NetBuilders and exercising my freedom of speech by making some interesting posts. Hypocrite.

    You would rather that we have a Hindu rule rather than a secular rule and round up every non-Hindu. I find you no different than pakistani Mullahs and other religious extremist - scum of the society.

    Why don't you provide some facts to back up your claim that Muslims can get away with whatever they want?
     
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    And who are you ? a noble peace prize owner ? look what had happened in kashmir , hundred thousands of hindu kashmiri pandits were butchered , hindu girls were raped , all hindus were driven away from kasmir by peaceful people and what action has govt of india taken against such peaceful religion people ? it is feeding them with tax payers money.
     
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    That was a riot, it is difficult to round up rioters since they can't be identified and there's hardly any evidence to convict them. No one has been convicted in Godhra riots either.

    Since you are so opinionated on the issue, how do you suggest Kashmiri Muslims should be dealt with? Jail them all? Withdraw from the region and leave it to them? Gas your own citizens? I can't wait to hear your valuable suggestions.
     
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    He is facing the charges. Some ass clowns thinks taking law into their own hands and violence is the solution for every problem. Do India have tit for tat law for these kind of crimes? If not, they should make one.
     
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    Here we go again. You want their hands to be cut-off in retaliation? LOL.

    No one needs that kind of laws. The culprits would probably get 2-10 years in jail depending on their ages, how many they were, their state of mind, their motivations etc. While in rotting in jail (extremely hot whether, slleping on the floor, no coolers, bad food, bars etc.) they will hopefully realize what a horrible thing they did.
     
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    There are lot of records available from which all mosques instructions to kill, loot, rpe hindus were coming , govt of india should have cracked down all such mosques , many separatist leaders who were involved are eating biriyanis wasting tax payers money.

    Any mosque which agitates common men should be closed down after 3 warnings , common men are peaceful until and unless they are instigated repeatedly.
     
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    That is never going to happen , it will take at leas 12-20 years (see what happened in bhopal gas tragedy) to punish them , they can always bribe jailor and get good food, tv, mobile , girls inside jail.
     
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    are you serious
     
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    the so called "hindu body" , govt. has nothing to do with it.
    If its an hate speech ir-respective of the religion and one brings the issue to the legal system, a case will be filed and rest goes on
    which book has it been specified ?? plz educate me
     
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    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    it was a mass riot, created by the extremists, the govt. was in a pathetic position to counter attack, as it feared for a loss of many more lives which would bring an un-necessary stalemate in the proceedings, its the same reason Kashmir pundits were forced to leave Kashmir, for their own safety.
    The day when the separatists elements are eliminated / brainwashed with the ground level facts, I don't see a change in this stance in the upcoming years
     
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    it is ethnic cleansing.
     
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