Comparing Back Links, PR and Quality Sites

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by tsptom, Dec 20, 2005.

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    This site (digitalpoint.com) has over 9000 backlinks per google and hence has a strong PR. Of these 9000 I'd be interested to know how many were reciprocal, natural, or how many are links come from within the site - if that even counts.

    When I view the "link:" results from my website, many of the links are coming from my message board. That leads to a couple of questions:

    1) Are some links from within your own site considered?
    2) Will using a sub-domain (like - forums.digitalpoint.com) help links count as another site pointing to the main site (in this case digitalpoint.com?)

    I can't imagine spending the time to get 9000 backlinks from reciprocal sites.
    There is another site I have followed on the backlink tool here, just for comparative purposes (one of DP's member's sites), that has 14 pages total, 8000+ backlinks, a PR of 6, and it isn't even a working site anymore. At least it is not one that has anything of value currently showing.

    I have practically no backlinks (just jumped from 31 to 62 :eek: ) but my site has about xx,xxx pages, 4900 indexed and steady traffic (3 mill mo.) and it's been a PR 4 for a year and a half.

    I'm just trying to figure out this PR / backlink thing. I really don't want to spend half my day exchanging and adding links to directories but it sounds like that is what you have to do.

    Any thoughts? Thanks.
     
    tsptom, Dec 20, 2005 IP
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    If you get 3 million uniques a month then your doing something right. Backlinks help for serps, and will in turn lead to more visitors. PR is just a measure of the value of backlinks.
     
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    Voasi Active Member

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    Well, probably none were reciprocal. When you've got cool email lists and webmaster tools ... it's not that hard to generate a wealth of backlinks, especially if you develop them into tools that rival paid alternatives.

    Internal linking, with appropriate anchor text is good, and sub-domains can count as links, but i wouldn't spend time trying to build out hundreds of sub-domains to link to your index page.

    What you need to do is develop some viral link pages. Make some cool tools or something unique for your site that will get bloggers or other websites to link to your site. Start a rumor. Get completely against the flow on a popular opinion. Just get people talking and the links will flow.

    Google only shows a sampling of your backlinks. Try Yahoo! or MSN for backlinks, their more accurate.

    And lastly, but not least...it's just a green little bar. Try this...right click the toolbar at the top of your browser and un-check the "GOOGLE TOOLBAR". Their...no more worries of PR. :D
     
    Voasi, Dec 21, 2005 IP
  4. tsptom

    tsptom Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the reply. I guess what I am really trying to do, is get to the first page for the keyword "tsp" which is going to be tough. I'm in the top 2 or 3 listings on the first page with some other fair keywords like, "tsp help", "tsp savings", "tsp allocation", etc. but it's "tsp" that I want. I don't know if 9000 backlinks will do it, or what. Is that the key or is it anchor text, etc..? I believe my content is good.

    Thanks again.
     
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  5. Voasi

    Voasi Active Member

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    The top site in big G is a .gov site...gonna be hard to beat out. If you think you have a good resource though, email the .gov site and see if they'd place a link on their site.

    I just did this a few weeks ago and got 52 links from .gov pages. Nice little addition. If you have a good resource, they'll want to keep their site fresh with good, knowledgable sites.
     
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    I found this link on another thread to help search Yahoo for backlinks
     
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  7. tsptom

    tsptom Well-Known Member

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    Oh, for sure. I just want on the first page. #2

    Wow! I had thought of that but never thought it was possible. That is encouraging. I will try it, but I don't think they like my site. :)

    Thanks for the info
     
    tsptom, Dec 22, 2005 IP
  8. tsptom

    tsptom Well-Known Member

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    Cool site. But it seems to only find pages indexed by Yahoo. Not backlinks.

    Thanks.
     
    tsptom, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    You can find Inlinks (not sure how this differs from backlinks) as well as indexed pages of your domain. Go towards the top left of the results page after you have entered the domain you're interested in and you will find the Inlinks hyperlink there.
     
    marvinniven, Dec 22, 2005 IP
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    How long Yahoo will reindex a site??
     
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