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Comments on mob453.com?

Discussion in 'Websites' started by aleco, Mar 26, 2004.

  1. #1
    Hello!

    I can't remember how I came across this site, I think it might've been the Google positioning tracker tool - anyway, I was hoping people could give my site the once-over (or more if possible!) and let me know what you think.

    http://www.mob453.com/

    For "t610 themes" on google, I was something like 8th, until Google changed something and I dropped to below 200th. Now I've gone up a bit to around 58 for that particular keyword (still v. low or off the scale for most though since the change :( ).

    This prompted me to try out some different things to see what worked as this change has hit my site very badly and if it doesn't pick up I might as well stop wasting my time. The site's always been in XHTML 1.1 (most of it valid, but I'm still working my way through the pages) and uses css for layout. In fact, on the main page and Themes page, you shouldn't find a single table for the layout or displaying of data! :D (took me long enough! :rolleyes: ) Google's still showing the old themes page with tables in it's cache, so I'll have to wait and see if it helps that I've removed tables when it updates next

    I'm currently trying to alter the ringtone ordering page so will post up a before and after once it's finished.

    Many thanks for any time you spend helping me! :)
     
    aleco, Mar 26, 2004 IP
  2. candysmith

    candysmith trying not to be evil

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    Hi Aleco
    It's a beautifully designed site but I can straight off see a number of reasons why you lost rankings. What is your #1 search term you want to come up for? Let me know and I'll give you a few pointers that should put you back in the top 10 in no time.
     
    candysmith, Mar 26, 2004 IP
  3. candysmith

    candysmith trying not to be evil

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    just a note again... the design and look of the site is superb! a bit of tweaking from an SEO point of view and the site should do really, really well. I really love the site. I would happily buy from this site any day.
     
    candysmith, Mar 26, 2004 IP
  4. aleco

    aleco Active Member

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    Wow thanks for the very positive reply! I don't really get much feedback on what I've been doing as it's nice to hear someone likes it! :D Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling!

    My main aims were to create an easily navigatable site which was simple and clear to use - as I got into it a bit more, I discovered xhtml and css and the rest went from there! I must say it's been much much harder to get the desired layout results though.

    As you might have seen, some pages are slightly different to others (some have a flash navigation thing), which I'm in the process of removing to the style of the main page - just incase you were wondering why there was some inconsistancy in the design.

    Well, ideally I'd like my number 1 keyword to be "polyphonic ringtones" - however, having looked at the top spots, and not even being in the top 1000 results in Google yet for that phrase, it looks like it might be too tough to break, especially due to the way the top results all seem to interlink and have the same content/provider.

    Therefore, this leaves a few other options:
    1. staying on the ringtone side, perhaps when someone types in the phrase, "[artist name] [title name]" (or with polyphonic ringtone added onto the end of that) eg Britney Spears Toxic (polyphonic ringtone).
    Before the Google update, this method worked reasonably well, as for certain songs I came up first! (Will Young, Girls Aloud, George Michael, and maybe others I didn't try). Now I'm down to about 300th for these :(

    2. themes
    phrases would include "t610 themes" "z600 themes" "t630 themes" and probably "Nokia 6600 themes" or "6600 themes" if I add some of those to the database.

    3. colour wallpaper
    As there's so many sites offering this, and the wallpapers aren't named so people can't search for like "Tomb Raider wallpaper", I doubt there's much that can be done on this side, so for wallpaper I was focusing more on the fact that you can upload wallpaper from your PC to download via WAP to your mobile using the site. However, I need to add this info the main page again.

    Reading through this again it's pretty confusing, so probably best if you let me know which bits need clarifying - and thanks for any help you can offer me! :)

    PS I should add that most people used to find the site by searching for T610 themes I think, but that's probably because the range of different ringtone names they could put in would have meant it didn't show up as a popular phrase in my stats page.
     
    aleco, Mar 26, 2004 IP
  5. OnSpec

    OnSpec Peon

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    #5


    I'm afraid this won't be as nice and fuzzy as the above review, but it will be honest.

    There is some good content there, but the overall design I find is "scattered". It seems a "boxy" and haphazardly thrown together. Also, you may want to re-think your domain. There are literally hundreds of domains available on the market that might be better suited and more search-engine friendly.

    Best of luck with it.
     
    OnSpec, Mar 27, 2004 IP
  6. aleco

    aleco Active Member

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    Any feedback is useful!

    The design was actually aimed to be blocky, so I suppose that's a good thing you think that in a way. But I'm not sure what you mean by scattered and haphazard - could you give me some examples please so I can try to address this?

    You'd be amazed at how many domains were taken for polyphonic ringtones, so I gave up and tried to go for a more memorable address (although I now realise at a bit of seo cost) - mob453 = mobile when typed in to a phone. As the site is accessed via wap too, I wanted a short domain so people didn't spend 5 minutes trying to type the url in. I would get another one but doesn't google penalise that if I linked it to the current site?

    Thanks,
    aleco
     
    aleco, Mar 27, 2004 IP
  7. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #7
    the site looks nice - and you may have an indepth look beyond about your links / titles etc see report on the link below
    ( after a while i may remove the report from my site hoping that all have learned whatever can be learned )

    http://www.kriyayoga.com/logfiles/www.mob453.com-27Mar04-1941/index.html

    and see if those link- and server problems on the webcheck-report
    can be solved to get all 200 or at least 302

    it IS possible to get a report with 0 errors and problems ..
    it may NOT be necessary - fro example the javascript links - if they work fine -
    then its OK IF its OK that those links are NOT checked by regular bots.

    i am using webcheck since approx 1999 ( at that time it was called linbot ( a clone of a very expensive - many thousand $ expensive !! -
    commercial tool with a "k" after lin .. )

    my experience is ..

    IF webcheck has problems in following links - then most or all regular SE have most likely same problems
    resulting in wrong, partial or none-indexing by bots

    to be sureyou may go to google ..

    then
    check with a word that is on EVERY page - EVERY page !! like the word AND or no or if or ringtone
    ANY word - in the following syntax ( example word "and" )

    and site:www.mob453.com
    i did it with and ..

    google says:
    Searched pages from www.mob453.com for and. Results 1 - 100 of about 202.

    if 202 pages is all you have - then google found all - else SEO
    to me it looks few pages ..
    you know how many you really have

    a query and site:www.digitalpoint.com
    Searched pages from www.digitalpoint.com for and. Results 1 - 100 of about 16,500.gives 16500 pages found from digitalpoint.com
    - shawn probably has good links !!

    OR may be NOT every page has the word and - hence you may know WHICH simple word is on EVERY page
    to get # of pages @ google db if TOO different

    also keep in mind that googlebot is one of the finest - MANY other bots may fail ..
    and yet there are millions of surfers also using NON-google SE to go online - hence to cater to all still may be highly beneficial
    for max visitor #

    the cleaner a full webcheck report is - the more likely you get a full visit by as many bots as possible.
     
    hans, Mar 27, 2004 IP
  8. aleco

    aleco Active Member

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    Thanks! I'll check out all that info and try and see if I understand it all - I've got well over 1000, probably closer to 2000 polyphonic ringtones on my site, so in theory they should all get listed and I should have over 2000 pages listed in google rather than the 200 it has now. I noticed it doesn't seem to be spidering the whole page - ie for ringtones, under A B C D etc, there's a max of 30 per page - in theory, if there's a minimum of 15 ringtones per letter, it should be spidering 390 ringtone results minimum. This suggests it's not spidering each link on the page, and also that it's not going on to the second page of results or 3rd page etc if there are any. I've now changed it so that the names of the ringtones link to the ringtone, so hopefully this will help, and I'm in the process of trying to sort out the multiple pages thing (I might add links to page 1 2 3 etc rather than just a "next" or "previous" link). Are these steps in the right direction? Or would google not like that many links per page? :confused:

    I'm quite busy at the moment so once I've had a look over the report I'll make another post here with what I might be able to do.

    Thanks again for any help so far!
     
    aleco, Mar 28, 2004 IP
  9. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    the detailed reply about links with s p a c e s in URL is being sent DIRECTLY to you by email -
    as my attemp to post it HERE resulted in the repeated error message:


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    "You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.

    Images include use of smilies, the vB code tag and HTML <img> tags. The use of these is all subject to them being enabled by the administrator. =
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    and i can NOT remember having published ANY pictures IN previous posts - nor do i have the time to play around with strange mistakes while on a 28 kB dial up
     
    hans, Mar 28, 2004 IP
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    hans Well-Known Member

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    hans, Mar 29, 2004 IP
  11. blazed30

    blazed30 Peon

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    #11
    All I can say is the site looks very nice!
     
    blazed30, Jan 17, 2008 IP
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    Tahseen Shahzad Peon

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    opps not free :S well dear your link page does not work properly check it .... mob453.com/mates/ ... site design is very cool and nice keep it up buddy ....
     
    Tahseen Shahzad, Jan 17, 2008 IP
  13. real22

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    #13
    well i simply have no coment
     
    real22, Jul 18, 2008 IP
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    real22 Peon

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    #14
    why? you want to know
     
    real22, Jul 18, 2008 IP
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    real22 Peon

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    Well that is for me to know and you find out
     
    real22, Jul 18, 2008 IP
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    #16
    Wow, way to bump a really, really old thread and reply to your own comments. :eek:
     
    steelfrog, Jul 18, 2008 IP
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    ageofz Peon

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    #17
    lol. The site is great nice work. Looks like you have made some progress over the years :)
     
    ageofz, Jul 18, 2008 IP